Constantine, Ticinum mint Sol Invictus rev.

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  1. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Hey folks. Here’s a new arrival of mine which I plan to use in a college paper I am working on. Here are some not great photos but they are OK for now.

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    For my paper, I’d also like to have a Constantinian coin with Christian symbology. The earlier, the better. I’m trying to point out the length of time from the battle at the Milvian, to the earliest Christian symbols on coins. Just to illustrate the historians of the time propagandizing on behalf of Constantine and Christianity as a whole. So please, if you have some of those earlier coins featuring the Chi-Rho or other symbols drop them below and perhaps I can use it.

    of course, you receive full credit. And hopefully, I will too :confused::woot:
     
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  3. Orange Julius

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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Good luck with the paper!
     
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  5. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    This is one of the types I was hoping to find. However; I was hoping someone here had one which they would like to contribute.

    maybe @Victor_Clark ? No pressure though :woot:
     
  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Thanks a bunch ACH!!
     
  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    here's my SPES PVBLIC

    SPES_Constantinople_19.jpg

    Constantine I
    A.D. 327
    Ӕ nummus 19mm 2.6g
    CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG; laureate head right
    SPES PVBLIC; chi-rho atop standard of 3 medallions impaling snake, in left field A.
    in ex. CONS
    RIC VII Constantinople 19
     
  8. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Mind if I use this? Where does this stack up in comparison to other Christian coins? How much earlier does it go? About 15 years after the Milvian sounds about right to me, but if there is something earlier it would help me immensely (even if it goes against my thesis)
     
  9. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    This coin of Theodosius II has a clear cross on reverse. It was struck at Cyzicus. RIC-X- 134.

    TheoCyzi II O           Cross.jpg TheoCyz134r          RIC 10.jpg
     
  10. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    This is the considered to be the earliest coin of Constantine with an unambiguous Christian symbol (the Chi-Rho at the front of the helmet crest). It's been dated to 315 AD (a fairly well accepted date), although a few people consider it might be later. The reference number for this is "RIC VII Ticinum 36". It's not a part of everyday coinage, but rather a special issue silver medallion given out to specific honorees (high ranking members of the army, etc). The coin itself measures about 26mm in diameter, meaning that the Chi-Rho itself measures about 1.5mm across - to the naked eye it would be very hard to distinguish it from a star, so not a very bold statement!

    There are only four of these known to survive. This one sold at auction for around $0.25M a few years ago, and the other three are in museums. Here's a link to the auction (NAC is the company). I'm not sure what their photo policy is, but normally these companies are OK to share for non-commercial use.

    https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2518&lot=1051

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  11. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Valentinian I, AE3, GLORIA ROMANORVM, LVGSR.png
    Valentinian I, AE3. Lyons. AD 364-375. DN VALENTINIANVS PF AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right / GLORIA ROMANORVM, Emperor walking right, holding labarum with chi-rho, dragging captive behind him. O-F II across fields. Mintmark LVGSR
     
  12. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Love it :cool:
     
  13. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Constans Centenionalis Cyzicus.JPG
    There is what appears to be a Chi-Rho on the emperor's standard on the reverse.
     
  14. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It's a little later than Constantine but the symbolism is there :)
     
  15. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I cannot provide a coin from that specific time, not sure if this will help as it's "younger"/. Labarum with Chi-Rho but quite worn
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    DN GRATIANVS PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right / GLORIA ROMANORVM, emperor in military dress walking right, head left, holding labarum, dragging a kneeling captive by the hair, F to left, R above hooked A (symbol 4) to right. Mintmark ΔSISCVE.
    RIC IX Siscia 14c, AD
    367-375

    Here is also a "new" one with a cross in the right field
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    Obv: AEL FLACCILLA AVG - diademed and draped bust right
    Rev: SALVS REI-PVBLICAE - Empress standing facing, arms folded over chest, cross to right, mintmark CONSE.
    RIC IX Constantinople 82
     
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  16. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Here are two Arcadius. One with a cross and the other with a Chi-Rho.
    Arcadius, AE2, VIRTVS EXERCITI, CONS.png Arcadius, AE3, GLORIA ROMANORVM, BSISC.png
     
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  17. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    This was exactly what I was searching for - however this one is ultra rare, and I think I would benefit more from something a little more, well, typical for the era.

    I’d also hate to take an image which I don’t necessarily have rights to. That site says that some images may be liable to copyright and I don’t really want to play that guessing game.
     
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  18. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    the most conspicuous XP :
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    D.N. MAGNENTIVS P.F. AVG
    SALVS DD.NN. AVG. ET CAES. , large christogram between A and ω , exergue : LSLG (Lugdunum)
    26 mm
     
  19. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    From Constantine I's reign I have 5 different types with Christian symbology. One is a SPES PVBLIC which is a type @Victor_Clark has already exhibited above so I will not include it here. But my other 4 (from years 320, 334, 334/335, & 336 AD) are below.

    320 AD
    RIC VII 168 3.d. [London]
    Cross within wreath on altar...

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    334 AD
    RIC VII 385 (385/400) [Arles mint]
    Chi-Rho above she-wolf, between 2 stars...

    upload_2021-11-8_18-21-26.png

    334/335 AD
    RIC VII 124 [Aquileia mint]
    Cross on ground between 2 standards...

    upload_2021-11-8_18-27-9.png

    336 AD
    RIC VII 394 [Arles mint]
    Chi-Rho on standard...

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  20. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    CNG Allows for non-commercial uses of their images. I think they have their policy stated on their research page. It’s a good resource if you want quality images for an academic paper.
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While shown before above, my favorite Christian symbolism coin was issued by the pagan Magnentius to curry favor with the orthodox Romans against the Arian Constantius II. The A-W shows that this coin supported the orthodox view that Christ existed from the beginning to the end and was not created by the Father. This one is from Amiens.
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