It seems to boil down to Manley 4.8 or Manley 5.0 and I don't have the books and even Heritage left me hanging out to dry by just saying it's hard to tell.
I would have missed it except I'm giving another of the sellers offerings a really long look. It's right up my alley with detail and corrosion, but rare.
I looked at that in the book but the couldn't see the details well enough to ID it as such. Nice analysis.
Can you tell me what the difference is between the Extremely Rare Manley 4.8 and the Rare Manley 5.0. The ones Identified as such seemed random or even reversed to me. from May 2008 "Rare 1804 C-7, B-5 Die State, Good 6 1804 1/2 C Spiked Chin Good 6 Uncertified. C-7, B-5, R.4. Breen State VI. Manley State 5.0. EAC 6. A rim break over OF A joins the top of F but misses the O. Manley states that 18 examples of his State 5.0 are known. There is virtually no difference between Manley State 4.8 (with just three known) and Manley State 5.0 (with 18 known). Careful study of die state descriptions and photos are necessary to distinguish between the two die states."
I had given up collecting before the digital microscope and Big Screen as Monitor setup I have now. I'm not sure how long that will work, but the enlarge feature helps. But no amount of enlargement overcomes either the coins or the focus.
Can't say as to the Manley state (don't have that book) but it is undoubtedly C-7 so it is worth having no matter which die state it is.
Does anyone have a copy of this book? It seems to be the only source to find out the difference between Manley 4.8 and 5.0. I don't even know where to begin looking. Published 1998 and pretty much unavailable by 2010.