2000-P SAC $ WITH 3 DIE CRACKS AND USA DOUBLED

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  1. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS DOUBLED, AND 3-DIE CRACKS..MS-68 RECENT PURCHASE CRACKS ARE ON: "A" OF STATES, "D" OF DOLLAR AND GOING TO STAR, AND "F" OF OF 251140784_474753023803744_7482826521827228465_n.jpg 251329859_1042098679969667_8933550620578722785_n.jpg 251379377_2944767599186783_3503675011269130846_n.jpg 251518570_2956670791290966_7189950865633355397_n.jpg 251565331_433578495007666_1401274963431611364_n.jpg 252489003_851873452144302_5237025071839846397_n.jpg 252646029_271345615001001_2403964735014358890_n.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    With so many die cracks that's evidence of a worn die. So that means USA has die deterioration doubling.. not a Doubled Die.

    Who said that's a MS68?
     
  4. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    looked at it under high magnification, seems imho ms-68, since not selling it at moment, does not mater, if someone agrees fine, if not?? well..i can always lower the grade, no imperfections, clean and clear strike, no surface blemishes..also i compared it to pcgs photograde (free online grading site)..
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes you can and yes you should. I'm sure others will agree.

    Thanks for sharing you coin.
     
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  6. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    looking at pcgs, for ms-67, my coin is better than that, and looks a bit like the ms-68, so i would say definitely a 67+ and maybe a 68??...got it pretty cheap so if i ever wanna sell it, i have some room...geez, you are up early...
     
  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Were you hoping someone else besides me comment on your thread? :hilarious:
    I'm giving you my honest opinion.
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The first photo shows evident circulation on the rims. There are small scuffs or smudges on both sides of the coin. Hope you didn't pay more than a dollar for it.
     
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  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    nice die cracks, not a DDR, and not a 68
     
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  10. Steve Shupe

    Steve Shupe Active Member

    The die cracks are interesting, but at best I would call that a MS64 as Sac took a hit on the chin plus the rim marks. The reverse strike appears weak but it is probably just a last state polished reverse die on the reverse with the eagles left wing missing most of the feather detail. I really like this design and think is was soooooo much better than the dead presidents that followed.
     
  11. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    ok, 67+..compared coin to pcgs photograde, it is better than 67 pictured in their picture, there are no marks or blemishes under 10 x magnification, has one or two slight contact marks, 0 wear, i even compared it to a ms-68 i have that is slabbed, it is identical...do not know what you are seeing, it is much better in hand, limitations of camera.....anyways.. grading is subjective..if it did not cost 50.00 i would send it in...but price is pointless...i buy slabbed coins all day long for 3.00-7.00, proof 69's and ms-66, 67 coins for a few dollars...and it cost someone 35.00 or more to slab it...i think it is nuts to do so..go to photograde by pcgs and look at a 64, they are all scratched and marked, this coin only has contact on chin...
     
  12. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    just sharing a new coin i picked up, your opinions , like anyone elses are always welcome..sometimes i do take your advice, sometimes not....
     
  13. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    go to pcgs photograde and look at an ms-64...a 64 has multiple wear and contact marks, that is what i used to grade coin...
     
  14. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    i never said it was a doubled die, i just said "doubling" by whatever means....
     
  15. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    sorry, in hand, and under 10 x magnifier, not seeing rim wear, nor scuffs, some light contact marks on rim, after all these are thrown in a bag with 50,000 others...like i already said, go to pcgs photograde, it is on internet and free, ..maybe will try another camera, ..
     
  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I know you never said or asked if it was a Doubled Die. But your title states DOUBLED in capital letters. That makes everyone think you are stating it is a Doubled Die. When talking about worthless doubling such as Deterioration doubling or mechanical doubling the word Doubled should not be used in conjunction with them. Understand?
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Well OK if you say so, Your photos do not show as an unc coin let a lone a 67+ or 68.
     
  18. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    diff. pics, i do not understand how someone can say this is an au, i will show pcgs pics for au grade in the following reply 253298508_565919977848763_4680991092603633596_n.jpg 253418160_3141649852755296_4590143389262909658_n.jpg 253767602_999482563933472_7232634315281438833_n.jpg
     
  19. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Well, in my opinion it has to be within 1 and 70, doesn't it...
     
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  20. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    ok, someone said au-58, another said at best a 64, i am showing those grades from the pcgs site, they are not my images and i mean no infringement..compare the coins in the site to mine, there are many many scratches and marks on au up to ms-65, mine is much closer to the 67 or 68 imo...just compare.. 252756041_4623114234398330_5465499818848670341_n.jpg 252836867_315665336752232_603884568798071124_n.jpg 253125932_855186231757094_3580164542438810357_n.jpg 253467627_1863658447360630_6679641045697861886_n.jpg 253602601_877679446268139_6800595715437396576_n.jpg 252682456_1549852755368619_5960778144291039169_n.jpg 253767602_999482563933472_7232634315281438833_n.jpg 252698128_934906644075203_7512122810072322343_n.jpg
     
  21. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    just look at the ms-63 (per pcgs) are you telling me my coin is worse than the one they say is ms-63???? come on now...
     
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