Theo and the Gang

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Tonight's post has to do with Theodosius and his immediate family. No, not CT's very own @Theodosius but rather Theodosius I. In my opinion, Theodosius I was one of the last "great" late Roman emperors and his dynasty did pretty well, producing 5 emperors over the span of 78 years (379-457 AD).

    I have managed to round out the immediate family (at least as far as what is affordable to me) tonight with the addition of Theodosius' wife, Aelia Flaccilla. I've been trying to add more women to the FF collection at the behest of my daughter and this coin was a no-brainer since it fulfilled both her request and also a love of mine; anything related to Victory. The fact that it was affordable also helped :p

    Without further ado, here is our set of Theodosian family coin. We'd love to see your favorites and if you can round out the rest of the dynasty, that'd be great too!


    Theodosius I, AE2, GLORIA ROMANORVM, CONA.png
    Theodosius I
    378-383 AD
    AE2
    Constantinople Mint
    Obverse: DN THEODO-SIVS PF AVG, helmeted, pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right, holding spear and shield
    Reverse: GLORIA ROMANORVM, Emperor standing facing, head right on galley, raising right hand; Victory at helm. Wreath in left field. Mintmark CONA
    ex: Doug Smith


    Aelia Flacilla, Follis, SALVS REIPVBLICAE, CON.png
    Aelia Flacilla
    383-386 AD
    AE2
    Constantinople Mint
    Obverse: AEL FLACCILLA AVG, mantled bust right in elaborate headdress & necklace
    Reverse: SALVS REIPVBLICAE, Victory seated right, inscribing a christogram on shield set on narrow column. Mintmark CON
    ex: Ken Dorney


    Arcadius, AE4, SALVS REIPVBLICAE.png
    Arcadius
    383-408 AD
    AE4
    Obverse: DN ARCADIVS PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: SALVS REI-PVBLICAE, Victory walking left, trophy over shoulder, dragging captive. Chi-Rho in left field.
    ex: Warren Esty


    Eudoxia, AE3, SALVS REI-PVBLICAE, SMK.png
    Aelia Eudoxia
    400-404 AD
    AE3
    Cyzicus Mint
    Obverse: AEL EVDO-XIA AVG, diademed draped bust right
    Reverse: SALVS REI-PVBLICAE, Victory seated right on cuirass, pointing one hand at a shield inscribed with the Chi-Rho, supporting it on a column with her other hand.
    Mintmark: SMK


    Honorius, AE3, VIRTVS EXERCITI, ANTΓ.png
    Honorius
    392-395 AD
    AE3
    Antioch Mint
    Obverse: DN HONORI-VS PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: VIRTVS-EXERCITI, emperor standing left, head right, holding spear and resting left hand on shield. Victory, standing beside him crowns him with a wreath which she holds in her right hand. Mintmark ANTΓ
     
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  3. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Nice dynasty collection!

    My first ancient coin ever was a Theodosius I bronze. This was in the '70s when information was much harder to come by. It took me years to figure out that it was a real Roman coin and who the heck Theodosius was.

    John
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  5. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    I really need to work on photographing my Roman collection. I don't have too many of this dynasty photographed.
     
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  6. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    I don’t get to trot out the Theos often. Here are just a few that I have (poorly) photographed.
    TheodosiusCyzicusRICIX25b.JPG
    Cyzicus RIC IX 25b
    TheodosiusConstantinopleRICIX52c.JPG
    Constantinople RIC IX 52c
    TheodosiusSisicaRICIX38b.JPG
    Siscia RIC IX 38b
    TheodosiusCyzicusRICIX29a.JPG
    Cyzicus RIC IX 29a
    TheodosiusSisciaRICIX39a.JPG
    Siscia RIC IX 39a
    TheodosiusNicomediaRICIX46a.JPG
    Nicomedia RIC IX 46a
    TheodosiusConstantinopleRICIX57d.JPG
    Constantinople RIC IX 57d
    TheodosiusAlexandriaRICIX13c.JPG
    Alexandria RIC IX 13c
     
  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Not quite the full dynasty yet. Still need the grandsons. Will never be able to afford Tbeo's 2nd wife either :)
     
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I've been working on photographing our collection. The pictures are decent but not quite what I want. They lack depth I think. It is dun though. Gives me an excuse to handle them all :)
     
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  9. IMP Shogun

    IMP Shogun Well-Known Member

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    RIC IX Constantinople 57e
    20mm 2.42g

    This is a great dynasty to collect. I think Valentinian III fits well here too. The story of his life and demise are quite dramatic:

    "But with the powerful Aetius no longer in control, the court was gripped by intrigues. With the death of Aetius, the powerful Petronius Maximus now hoped to take his place, but Heraclius prevented that, managing to persuade Valentinian III that this would be a dangerous appointment.
    Angry, Maximus sought revenge. And so he found two Scythians (or Huns), called Optila and Thraustila, who whose loyalty still demanded vengeance for the murder of their master Aetius.

    On 16 March AD 455, Optila and Thraustila were among the guards of the imperial entourage as the emperor practised archery on the Campus Martius at Rome. Everyone was taken by surprise as Thraustila stepped forward and murdered Heraclius and Optila struck the head of Valentinian III, causing wounds from which he died."

    Valentinian III | History Cooperative

    9.500 Velentinian III Solidusresized2.jpg
     

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  10. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    A very impressive set, @furryfrog02! All I have (so far!) is Theodosius I in bronze and his two sons in gold -- my only two ancient gold coins. I hope to acquire more family members in the future.

    Theodosius I Ae3 - CONCORDIA AVGGG - Alexandria Mint jpg version.jpg

    Arcadius solidus photo Dr. Busso Peuss jpg version from MA-Shops.jpg

    Honorius Solidus (example with Sear Certificate) high contrast.jpg
     
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  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Nice looking group FF, I especially like the Eudoxia... she's not easy to get in attractive condition!

    We haven't yet seen Theodosius II:
    theo ii cross.jpg theo ii rome.jpg theo ii monogram.jpg

    Or Galla Placidia:
    galla placidia.jpg

    This coin could represent Hilderic, who was the son of Huneric and Valentinian III's daughter, Eudocia:
    vandals 4 nummi.jpg
     
  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    My favorite from this dynasty is a "three for one" showing two sons (Arcadius and Honorius) and one grandson (Theodosius II).

    Theodosius II - 3 emperors.jpg THEODOSIUS II
    AE4. 2.18g, 16.5mm. Constantinople mint, AD 406-408. RIC X Constantinople 144 (R4). O: D N THEODO-SIVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right, star behind. R: GLORI-A ROMA-NORVM, Honorius and Arcadius standing vis-a-vis holding spears and shields; between them, young Theodosius II standing holding a globe and spear with his head turned to the right; CONSB in exergue.
     
  13. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Great dynasty coins all!
    @DonnaML those gold coins are beautiful!
    @Severus Alexander I don't think I will ever get my hands on a Gall Placidia. Very few bronze coins of her.
    @zumbly I love that 3-fer!
    @IMP Shogun That Valentinian III is beautiful and the story is interesting as well. I love how much palace intrigue there was in the late Roman era. Though I suppose there was always palace intrigue...
     
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  15. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Theodosius I
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    Arcadius
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    Theodosius II
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  16. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I can contribute with
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    Aelia Flaccilla AD 383-386. Constantinople
    Follis Æ
    23 mm, 4,80 g
    From the Tareq Hani collection
    RIC IX Constantinople 82
    Date range: AD 383 – AD 388
    Obv: AEL FLAC-CILLA AVG, bust of Aelia Flaccilla, with elaborate head-dress, draped, necklace, and mantle / Rev: SALVS REI-PVBLICAE, Emperor, head right, standing facing, arms folded on breast, Christogram to right. Mintmark CONSϵ

    and with a small Arcadius

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    1.40 g 13.3 mm
    Arcadius
    383-408
    Æ Nummus, Aes IV, half-centenionalis
    Mint: Nicomedia, 388-392, 1st shop.
    Obv: D N ARCADIVS P F AVG
    Draped, cuirassed bust with pearl diadem to the right
    Rev: SALVS REI - PVBLICAE
    Victoria striding to the left with her tropaeum on her shoulder, dragging a prisoner behind her with her left.
    In the exergue: SMNA
    RIC IX 45
     
  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Great family snapshot @furryfrog02

    0750-310.jpg
    Theodosius I, AE2 - Heraclea mint, 1st officina
    DN THEODOSIVS PF AVG, diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    GLORIA ROMANORVM, Theodosius standing, head right, holding standard and globe. SMHA at exergue
    6,38 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 18, Roman coins #4181, LRBC # 1986

    0751-310.jpg
    Aelia Flaccilla, AE2 - Constantinople mint, 5th officina
    AEL FLAC CILLA, diademed and draped bust right
    SALVS REI PVBLICAE, Victory seated right, inscribing ChiRo on a shield. CON epsilon at exergue
    4.75 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 4, LRBC # 2167

    0760-210.jpg
    Honorius, Siliqua - Mediolanum mint, 2nd officina
    DN HONORIVS PF AVG, diademed draped and cuirassed bust right
    VIRTVS RO - MANORVM, Roma seated left, holding victory and sceptre, MDPS at exergue
    2.09 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 59, Roman coins # 4250

    0790-310.jpg
    Arcadius, AE 2 - Alexandria mint, 3rd officina
    D N ARCADIVS P F AVG, Diademed bust of Arcadius right
    VIRTS EXERCITI (sic !), Arcadius, standing right, a captive at right foot, holding globe and standard. ALE gamma at exergue
    6.28 gr
    Ref : RIC # 18, RC #4230, LRBC #2896 var

    0791-310.jpg
    Eudoxia, AE4 - Antioch mint, third officina
    [A]EL EVDOXIA AVG, diademed and draped bust right, above, hand holding wreath
    SALVS REIPVBLICAE, Victory seated right, inscribing christogram on shield. [ANT Gamma] at exergue
    2.35 gr
    Ref : Roman coins # 4241

    Based on the observation of another example minted with the same dies and with a visible exergue on reverse, the Antioch's third officina provenance of this coin is now certain. Thanks to Myriam at Nummus Bible II forum for her perspicacity and for providing me with the information
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    Theodosius II, AE3 - Constantinople mint, 1st officina
    DN THEODOSIVS AVG, Diademed and cuirassed bust of Theodiosius facing, holding spear on his right shoulder
    CONCORDI A AVG, Constantinopolis, seated, facing, holding spear and a victory on globe. In exergue CONSA
    2,25 gr, 16 mm
    Ref : RC # 4296, LRBC # 2212 var, RIC X, 90 (R4)

    Q
     
  18. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I only have three Theodosii.

    I like how they come in attractive large AE2 modules.
    Theodosius I AE2 Constantinople.JPG

    Though the tiny AE4 can be nice in higher grade.
    Theodosius I AE4 RIC IX Constantinople 83b.JPG
    This one I like for the massive radiate crown on the kneeling reverse figure.
    Theodosius I Siscia RIC IX 26c T3 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
     
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