Mexico Un Peso KM460 Types

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  1. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    I am working on documenting the various types of KM460 Mexico Un Peso.

    I am unsure if I have all the types, particularly 1982 and 1983.

    http://normansherlock.wixsite.com/un-peso (edited by request)

    I'm also interested to know why there were two distinct types for many years.

    Thanks,
     
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  3. Olmanjon

    Olmanjon Member

    Interesting-didn't realize there were so many varieties in this series. I have gotten into the varieties of the Canadian Large cents. Will have to look through all my pesos now. Just got a hundred or so and was going to get rid of them cheap. Will have to go back through now. Any idea on the rarity of any of these varieties?
    Olmanjon
     
  4. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    I don't think any of them are considered rare. The second variety listed of each year is generally the scarcer of the two types.
     
  5. Olmanjon

    Olmanjon Member

    Thanks for the quick response-will have to dig mine out
    Olmanjon
     
  6. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    I have tried to find information about why there were two distinct types, when they apparently were made at the same mint (?).

    Does anyone know where I can find more information on the subject?

    Thanks.
     
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    @ NSS: I know this is earlier than your date range in the OP but I was wondering if your could help me with this inquiry, Mexican 1975 1 Peso, Type 8 - Date variety question. I also came across your site in my own search but had some trouble figuring out notations. Thanks in advance.
     
  8. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    I wrote the guide referenced in the original post strictly from observing coins. Some lists have date varieties that I've never been able to locate (1982 and 1983).

    The "knot" and "bead" are my own observations. I had hoped this guide would help identify the different date types by alternative means (especially if you had only one example to view).

    Some dates have only one set of characteristics. Some dates have two.

    For example, in 1978, the closed 8 date variety has the "///" bead on the collar and does have a knot clearly visible where the bandanna is tied. This is the only combination of those characteristics I have observed. The open 8 date variety has the "\\\" bead and does not have a visible knot where the bandanna is tied.

    At the top of the page is an illustration that visually explains where to find the bead, knot, etc. The length of the bandanna also varies, but I did not record my observations on each date type.

    I have still not seen an explanation of why there are two distinct types for many of the dates in this series. They all have the OM mint mark.
     
  9. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thank you. I appreciate the info on this. Indeed I only had one of that date coin to compare and your guide was the most helpful I had found.
     
  10. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    You are welcome. I have never seen this information documented anywhere else.

    There are also differences in the sideburns, hair "comb" pattern, eyelids, and probably others.
     
  11. krispy

    krispy krispy

    In the 70s-80s there seems to have been an acceleration of design tweaks to the Peso at the Mint, I wonder what was going on at the time to warrant all these subtle changes with each new die or successive year's production. I know little of their Mint's structure, do they have multiple facilities as we do in the US (Phily, Denver, SF, West Point)?
     
  12. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    I have a 1983 that I'll dig out and image for you
     
  13. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    Actually have 5 KM# 460s

    1970 narrow date
    1971 (2 of them)
    1982 closed 8
    1983 (not sure if it's a narrow or wide date)
     
  14. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    One thing I noticed, from the pics on your website, is that after 1977 the bandana has 1 or 2 ends on it.
     
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    jgreenhood Senior Member

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