Bicentennial Washington quarter

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  1. Jjpe

    Jjpe Well-Known Member

    Good morning, pick these out of my weekly change did some research on them and I cannot come up with a definite answer whether the drum is a grease filled or environmental? Also is an issue on the other side of the drum that looks a little chopped off, environmental? Then there's a stick the drummer's holding his left hand that looks like it's split and peeling would that be a die crack in the middle of the stick? Look on his chin is that a die crack. The metal does look like it's pushed out in some places. Also all those die chips on his hat. Check out the q in quarter is that a cud? How about any doubling in quarter I don't see it but then again what do I know LOL. Take a look at the do in Dollar are those dots die chips. I can't see any other issues with the reverse of this coin but I know there's a lot of them. On the obverse I don't see much but look in God we trust I have two more to post with different questions I'll post them here when I get pics of them thanks everybody IMG_20211031_120654128.jpg IMG_20211031_121150308.jpg
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I'm seeing some damage and plenty of circulation wear and tear,still 25 cents.
     
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    wear & weak strike
     
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  5. Jjpe

    Jjpe Well-Known Member

    I read about a grease filled die that effects the drum what's that all about
     
  6. Jjpe

    Jjpe Well-Known Member

    Here are two more bicentennials I noticed the drums on these two kind of look like the other one is there a grease filled and environmental on the drums and look at the left sleeve (bottom pick) looks like he low crawled through Barbed wire
     

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  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    None are debris filled (grease filled) errors, just weak strikes. If you look at the area on the obverse immediately opposite the drum, you'll see Washington's head. During striking, there is a lot of metal movement into that part of the die. If the striking pressure set up is a little low or the gap between the dies is slightly wider, there may not be enough metal flow to fill all the details and the drum can be weak.
     
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  8. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Die deterioration and wear. Thanks for posting them.
     
  9. RogerC

    RogerC Well-Known Member

    A weakly struck drum was typical of the type, the fully struck were relatively scarce. As a cashier in '75, '76 I saved all the "uncirculated" full drums I could find.
     
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  10. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    The drum rim is a high point on the reverse side of the coin, along with the drummer's face. So it gets the most wear & tear from the very start of the coin's service life. Notice how much circulation damage is done to the drummers face too? That's a high point on the reverse as well.

    I come across one of these quarters on average in my pocket change once per week. More times then not, the drum, for the most part, is in good shape, not like the example in the OP. It's seldom that I will get one of these with the drum wiped out like the example shows.

    For those coin pro's out there, is it quite possible that this is also a result from an over polished die, not just circulation damage?
     
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  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Your pic will only enlarge a bit. So only to the issue of what's under the drum stick...it could be a die crack. If it is raised and you see no metal pushed up along the length of it then you probable have a crack or as it's technically called, an IDB or Interior Die Break.
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Very common and still easy to find in circulation. A few months ago I went through a lot of change. You know the kind. Get it today, save it and look at it in several years. I had over $70 of them. I stepped and got them to the bank. I would have included this in my back to the bank coins.
     
  13. Jjpe

    Jjpe Well-Known Member

    Thanks everybody I'll be taking a closer shot at that drumstick the more I look at it the more it looks like It took a hit
     
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