OTD 39 BCE: Julia the Elder shows up to a bittersweet party, her birth

"Half of what I say is meaningless."
Such a perfect lyric for Julia the Elder:
The most impactful woman that time forgot. Who 2059 years ago on the 30th of October was born to Augustus and Scribonia, before Augy would leave her mother for a young married woman named Livia, Julia Agusta. Mother to her future husband.

Having already read a thorough and knowledgeable write up by a very trusted peer (how didn't this one get featured???): https://www.cointalk.com/threads/wo...hrough-experiences-of-julia-the-elder.371673/
I've no need to reinvent the principate.


With her possibly being my favorite Julia, I felt it worth a mention.
Being Augustus' only child and wife to the man behind the mask, Agrippa... and Tiberius. And throw in that she was Caligula's gammy.
This makes her one of the most impactful women in history, that barely anyone knows of:

Posthumous Coinage of Augustus
Livia and Julia under Augustus. Bronze
10-2 BC, Pergamum/Mysia. LIBIAN
HPAN XAPINOS Draped bust of Livia
(as Hera) to r. Rev.( IO)YLIAN
(AFP)ODIT(HN) Draped bust of Julia
(as Venus)! to r 18 mm,. 3,79 g. BMC
248. RPC 2359. Vagi 370248. Very rare
Julia Daughter of Augustus by his first
wife Scribonia. Born 39 BC, she was the
wife of Marcellus, Agrippa and Tiberius,
respectively. Banished by her father to
the island of Pandataria in 2 BC, she
remained there 5 years and then was
allowed to reside in Rhegium, where
she died in 14 AD.

Dad:


Stepmother:

Hubbies:



Grandson:


And on and on we could go with the world shaking and ruling relations she had until Nero killed the rest of the Julio-Claudian line and himself.

As with all of the ancient scandalous stories of sexual depravity from the Augustas, that lord I wish were true, we have to take it all with a huge grain of salt. Look at who the sources were and served at the time they wrote their versions of history.



Please share your coins of hers, her kin, thoughts or anything that shakes Augustus to his core!

 

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A wonderful post!

Of course, Livia was simultaneously Julia the Elder's stepmother as Augustus's wife, and her mother-in-law as the mother of Tiberius -- who was both her third husband and her stepbrother. Here are Tiberius and (supposedly) Livia on the so-called Tribute Penny:



Julia's second husband Agrippa:



Agrippa with Julia's father Augustus:



Julia's grandson Caligula:



Julia's son-in-law Germanicus:



Julia's great-grandson Nero:



Julia's great-grandson and father on the same coin:



I have no coins of Julia herself, her daughter Agrippina the Elder, or her granddaughter (Nero's mother) Agrippina the Younger.

 

How about a Livia.


Livia (30 B.C. - 29 A.D)
IONIA, Ephesos
Æ 16
Magistrate, Aristeas Asklepiades
O: Draped bust of Livia right, hair in a bun.
R: EFE GRAMMATEUS ARISTEAS ASKLHPI-ADHS in five lines across fields and in exergue, Stag standing right.
3.8g
16mm
RPC I 2576; SNG Cop 367

Rare

 

Happy to oblige my humble additions of them with their Hubbies!
Agrippina/Germanicus
(Died 19 and 33, respectively). PHRYGIA. Aezanis. Ae. 17 MM 3.4 gr Lollios Klassikos, magistrate.
Obv: ΓЄPMANIKOC.
Laureate head of Germanicus right.
Rev: AΓPIΠΠINA ЄΠI KΛACCIKOV AIZANITωN.
Draped bust of Agrippina right.
RPC I 3081; SNG Copenhagen 71-2


Agrippina II & Claudius Provincial Mints
Bronze 49/50, Ephesus in Ionia. of both busts next to each other/cult of the Artemis of Ephesus. RPC 2621

 

Some pretty scarce coins in this thread. Those Livia/Julia bronzes of Pergamum are almost impossible to find...