Elagabalus Æ of Nicaea, Rare Radiate Bust

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This is a common type for Nicaea, but the radiate bust is apparently very rare. The only other example I could find was here. Radiate busts are also apparently very rare among ALL Nicaean types. Did the bust denote a different denomination, as in the Imperial dupondii?

    Elag Nic 6.jpg

    Edit: After a bit more hunting, I see that Gordian III and Severus Alexander issues of this reverse type with radiate busts are less scarce.
     
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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Is it similar in weight to a dupondius of the time?
     
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  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    No, not at all. 3.2g
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Well then, I'm stumped.
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I don't know what purpose the radiate busts served.

    Its possible that they represented a multiple (perhaps double) of a local unit.

    Volusian RPC Antioch 1286.JPG
    This Volusian from Antioch is similar to the Nicaea issues (what with the standards, and all).
    Its 22mm, and could be a "two-assarion" coin.

    Or, it could have served the purpose of the imperial antoniniani, as the size is similar.


    Then again, there are issues like this monster:
    IMG_1961.JPG It's 30mm and 17.2g, which is imperial sestertius spec; I don't think Volusian had any double sestertii, so no good analog there.
    Again, its possible this was a double of another unit, perhaps a 8- or 10- assarion, depending on whether Antioch was into the four-unit or five-unit standard.
     
  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Interesting post - it provoked me to look through my Nicaea AEs to see if there were any radiates - I have a few, with only one that is supposedly "rare" - a seated Zeus type, rather than the standards reverse:

    Severus Alexander - Nicea Zeus AE Lot Dec 2019 (0).jpg
    Severus Alexander Æ 18
    (c. 222-235 A.D.)
    Bithynia, Nicaea

    M AY(P?) X AΛEΞAN[ΔP]O[C]AV radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / NIKAIEΩN Zeus seated left, legs crossed, holding patera and scepter
    Rec Gen II.3 p. 472, 582;
    BMC Pontus -; Lindgren -
    (2.86 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay Dec. 2019 Lot @ $1.05
    Attribution Notes:
    Could only find one of these, with radiate bust and Zeus reverse; FORVM listing, noted as "very rare" attributed thusly:
    Rec Gen II.3 p. 472, 582;
    BMC Pontus -;
    Lindgren -;
    SGICV -,


    The other radiates I have are the standards type, none for Elagabalus:

    Sev Alex - Nicaea rad standards lot Jan 2021 (0).jpg
    Severus Alexander Æ 22
    n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.)
    Bithynia, Nicaea

    [Μ ΑΥΡ CΕΥ(Η)]ΑΛE[ΖΑΝΔΡΟC ΑΥΓ], radiate, dr. & cuir. bust r. / ΝI−Κ−ΑΙ−Ε / [ΩΝ] between 3 legionary standards (2-2-2 badges; 1-1-1 bars, 1-1-1 ribbons above each).
    RPC VI, 3260 (temporary).
    (4.22 grams / 20 mm)
    eBay Jan. 2021 Lot @ $0.86


    Sev.Alexander Niceca standards Dec 18 (0).jpg
    Severus Alexander Æ 18
    n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.)
    Bithynia, Nicaea

    Μ ΑΥΡ CΕΥ ΑΛΕ[ΞΑΝΔΡΟCΑΥ Γ], radiate, draped & cuir. bust right / Ν-ΙΚ−ΑΙ−Ε / ΩΝ between 3 legionary standards (1-2-1 badges; 2-1-2 bars each).
    RPC VI, 3201 (temporary); RecGen I-III 617.
    (3.83 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay Dec. 2018 Lot @ $0.73


    Gordian III - Nicaea radiate lot Mar 2021 (0).jpg
    Gordian III Æ 17
    (c. 238-244 A.D.)
    Bithynia, Nicaea

    Μ ΑΝΤ ΓΟΡ[ΔΙΑΝΟϹ Α...]radiate, draped & cuirassed bust [N]-I-K-A-[E] / ΩN, between 4 standards (1-2-2-1 badges, 2-1-1-2 bars), 2 inner topped with eagles, 2 outer topped with crowns (RPC).
    (1.64 grams / 17 x 15 mm)
    eBay Mar. 2021 Lot @ $3.33
    Attribution Notes:
    Very small flan, possible imitative, though style is fine-ish.
    Bust seen from front, thus RPC number
    RPC VII.2 19866 (unassigned);

    Gordian III - Nicea AE Lot Dec 2019 (0).jpg
    Gordian III Æ 18
    (c. 238-244 A.D.)
    Bithynia, Nicaea

    M ANT ΓOPΔ[IANO]C A, radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right / N-IK-AI-Ε / ΩΝ between three standards decorated on top with wreaths and Aquila.
    RG 716. SNG von Aulock 653.
    (2.17 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay Dec. 2019 Lot @ $1.05
     
  8. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Maybe the OP coin is scarce rather than rare?

    Have one radiate Æ Assaria, Severus Alexander
    Bithynia, Nicaea (currently Iznik), 222 - 235 AD
    20 x 21 mm, 5.227 g
    RPC VI 3261 or 3201 (temporary); BMC 101
    Ob.: Μ ΑVΡ CEVΗ ΑΛEΞΑΝΔΡΟC ΑVΓ Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: Ν-ΙΚ-ΑΙ-E/ΩΝ City spelled out between 3 standards

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  9. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I had a Gordian III like that at one time. I don't remember the exact size and weight, but it was around 19-20 mm:
    GordianIII2.JPG
     
  10. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    I have Gordian III radiate, Bithynia, Nicaea
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    With this coin, I do not know what a emperor is.
    image(2).jpg
     
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  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

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