Is this Antiochus IV in Egypt?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by PaddyB, Oct 29, 2021.

  1. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I have done my best with this - it came with a couple of Ptolemaic coins and so my search started in the Ptolemaic Bronze website. This appears to match a coin of Antiochus IV described as "post-conquest Egyptianised series of Antioch". Is this correct? Measures about 32mm and weighs 33.5g.
    Thanks
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    If I'm reading the legend on the right correctly, which it's entirely possible I'm not...It reads (Β)ΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤ(Ι)ΟΧΟΥ (Θ)ΕΟΥ (ΕΠΙΦ)ΑΝΟΥΣ and it matches the description from wildwinds:


    Antiochos IV Æ 32mm. Antioch mint. Struck 168-164 BC. Laureate head of Zeus right / BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY ΘEOY EΠIΦANOYΣ, eagle standing on thunderbolt. Newell, SMA 59.
    https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/seleucia/antiochos_IV/t.html
     
  4. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Yes, that’s it, it’s a Seleucid coin of Antiochus IV Epiphanes imitating the Egyptian style. It’s a very interesting type, one of my favorites. Here’s my example:

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    Seleucid Kings of Syria, Antiochos IV Epiphanes, AE Hemidrachm (33 mm, 34.37 g), "Egyptianizing" series, with bevelled edges, struck in honor of Antiochos IV's victories over Egypt, Antioch, 169-168 BC. Laureate head of Zeus-Serapis to right; with Osiris cap upon taenia. Rev. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ ΘΕΟΥ ΕΠΙΦΑΝΟΣ Eagle standing right on thunderbolt.
     
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  5. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    This fake reminds me of this seller whom frequently offers coins with a very similar patina.
     
  6. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi @PaddyB,

    Just to amplify what @Shea19 noted, these are not Egyptian coins, they are Seleucid coins that imitate the style of Ptolemaic coins.

    - Broucheion
     
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Are you saying that OP's coin is fake? Or am I missing something?
     
  8. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Yes I believe it is. The details are severely lacking.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We might note that this series included a smaller denomination with the head of Isis. AE27 19.2g ex. Brian Kritt, 1998
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