I found this coin a few days ago and I keep going back to look at it!! I couldn't help myself.....I had to have it. I love the look of the double profile. What do ya think? Guess the Grade!!
It's broadstruck, but I am not sure it is double or multi struck, regardless, maybe MS64? I still think grades for these kinds of errors are crapshoots...
Ask Mike D if they got it correct. Many of the TPGs get errors like this wrong. The doubled profile on your example, to me, looks as if it were from Plating-Split Doubling (AKA Split Line Doubling) alone. Of course I may be wrong and it was multi struck...
WOW, thats a beauty. Looks like it spent some time in the coining chamber. Personally, it looks like it was struck many times outside the collar...
It's a nice broadstrike with split-line doubling. There is no visible evidence that it was struck more than once. That doesn't eliminate the possibility that it was struck more than once, but one must always go with the more prosaic explanation. Split-line doubling is an effect frequently seen on ordinary broadstrikes and off-center strikes. It even occurs on otherwise normal strikes, although the distance of the split from the design is modest due to the limit on expansion imposed by the collar. Just as split-line doubling is not a reliable diagnostic for diagnosing multiple strikes, neither is the size of a broadstrike. Expansion has very little to do with the number of strikes and everything to do with ram pressure and minimum die clearance. You can find coins struck multiple times outside the collar with very little expansion and coins struck just once outside the collar (die-struck on both faces) with massive expansion. The point is, don't believe everything you read on a slab label. They frequently over-estimate the number of strikes for all sorts of reasons.
Looking at the first photo posted I definately see signs of multiple strikes. What looks like a die crack through IGWT is actually the outline of the top of Lincoln's head. To the left of the profile you can see a second outline of the back of Lincoln's head. To the right of the profile is the obvious outline with the split line effect. Finally, just above and to the right of the date you can see a few digits of an additional date. This is an awesome coin. Nice!
It would help if people read all the posts before they responded. Here is a page I put together on the doubling you are observing (the doubling discussed several times above). http://www.lincoln-cents.cuvelier.org/OFD/PSD.html
Howdy, I'm just going to suggest that NGC got this one wrong too. I don't see evidence of a multiple strike. Thanks, Bill
Schatzy, First, very nice coin, I am jealous. Second, I am about to invoke the ire of the resident experts and disagree with them. With the coin in hand, do you see a second impression of the date 1999 counterclockwise of the primary date? From your picture that seems to be the case. If that is in fact evidend, split line doubling cannot account for that as it would be bi-directional. The split-line doubling that is obvious is in a clockwise direction. I may be completely wrong, but that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it! Feel free to trash and insult me, I'm used to that, married, ya know. BonJoeB
I agree, it is a nice coin. If one looks closely at your assertion, there is one flaw in the logic. If one thinks of the devices on a coin as inhabiting a orbit, under normal circumstances, during a rotated second strike one would expect to find devices in these expected orbits. (You can make an overlay in Photoshop that would recreate these orbits.) Now, this supposed second 1999 has been suggested to be CCW (and above) the current date and within the expected orbit for the date. The issue is that this coin was not struck under normal circumstances, it was struck out of the collar. What that should mean is a second strike, rotated or not, should have struck inside the orbits of first strike as those orbits would have expanded and pushed outward a certain distance with the flow of metal. Exactly how far would be determined by (as stated by Mike D) the ram pressure, die clearance and the amount of metal availible for each strike. The new orbits may not be drastically different but they should be different nonetheless...
I agree, the split doubling is L-R, the second date, hairline is Up-Down, how is that possible? P.S. Married also
