Suspected Counterfeit 1889 CC just listed, repeat seller

Seller has posted far away images of this 1889 CC. You can see luster as if there is no wear, but the strike on the observe shows wear. reverse has the distinctive grainy look, plus the hit on the breast.
He also sold a more obvious counterfeit just last week also listed below
Please report new listing
https://www.ebay.com/itm/393620963016?hash=item5ba5a33ec8:g:OtMAAOSwRZZhYehh
Sold listing from last week
https://www.ebay.com/itm/393607974617?hash=item5ba4dd0ed9:g:mocAAOSwaWphWNd0

 

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It already has a bidiot!!!.

 

Yes, I hate des mudda fakers! Disgraceful, I hope he meets Karma in a big way really soon!

 

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I told him about the 13-S Buffalo and he replied. I sent him a pic of the real deal with the proper 3.

This is not fake my friend who are you again.
- cvwlllc

 

This guy is a pip

What type is the one in the pic I have had that Nickel for 40 years it’s not fake
- cvwlllc

New message from: cvwlllc (14)
I appreciate your concern but I am very confident in my coin that it is real have a great day.

 

LMAO

This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold.

 

Maybe he sold it to the 1 bidder for .99 LOL

 

He must have sent this to me before he yanked it.

New message from: cvwlllc (14)
Report it there is no way you can prove that coin is fake my friend it is real I even have paper work on where it can from as well.

 

You are harassing us and you don’t have 100% proof
- cvwlllc
My reply:
Then why did you end the auction? You will go on my saved seller list so I can keep an eye on you my friend.

 

The Bejing mint lol can't even say proper grammar unless he knows what is up and is getting nervous.

 

I've seen the 1913-S with the 3 from the 30's before. Not sure where it comes from.

 

Last one, I'm done for today.

New message from: cvwlllc (14)
You are harrassing us at this point do as you wish i have better things to do with my time then to make false accusations against someone.

 

Typical responses, in my experience. It's called "never give up the con."

 

I am curious to learn, please...What is it about the two 89-CC Morgans that appear fake...enough to make such accusations...? In all honesty after looking at the photos (understand not the best), I couldn't find anything, but I may not have the trained eye or experience that you all do.

 

I've mentioned this on other threads, but the dead giveaway for me is the stars on the obverse. If the points are blunt and the stars mushy in appearance, like on the OP coin, it's likely a fake. A real coin has the stars well defined and the points sharp, even with wear.

 

Thanks for sharing your intelligence. I need to pay closer attention to this issue. Obviously I know to check for weight and magnetism but that's sort of tough to do online.

In the present case I'm not even sure I can reliably make out the issue with the stars, at least not without the coin in hand and with the assistance of a magnifying glass.

What might give me pause, though, is how poorly struck (cast?!) The T and Y of LIBERTY are. However with Peace Dollars (which I know better) there are many legitimate but weak strike issues.

Edited to add image for posterity..

 

Reading your description of the dead giveaway, I have this 89 CC that has the indicators of VAM 5A. Exact same die crack and mint mark arrangement. I have had it for a very long time in with my Morgans. The stars to me are questionable. Without a commitment could you advise me?

 

I would totally buy a fake for .99 just to take it out of circulation.

 

It could just be a weak strike but you have to look at the whole coin. I'm no expert by any means, but all the fake ones I've seen that I knew for sure were fake have the stars issue.