The Emperor Game! Can WE do it?

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    And we can't forget Numerian, the younger brother.
    Numerian, Antoninianus, MARS VICTOR, Lyons.png
    Numerian
    Antoninianus
    284 AD
    Obverse: IMP C M AVR NVMERIANVS AVG, radiate draped bust right
    Reverse: MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy, C in right field.
     
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  3. Andres2

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  4. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

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    Carus
    AE Antoninianus
    Ticinum mint, 282-283 CE
    22mm, 4.07 grams
    RIC 69 var.
    David Showers 2018
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    Carinus
    AE Antoninianus
    283-284 CE
    20mm, 4.03 grams
    RIC V-II 325
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    Numerian
    AE Antoninianus
    Ticinum mint, 283-284 CE
    22mm, 4.17 grams
    RIC V-II 447
    Treasure Island, 2021
    My Carus is kinda an eyesore, gonna have to get an upgrade eventually.

    Edit: Just realized this thread has an unenforced 24-hour rule about posting, my bad, I'll slow down a bit.
     
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  5. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    My own Carus (clearly showing that handsome bald head), Carinus, and Numerian:

    Carus, silvered AE Antoninianus, late Autumn 282 [second son, Numerian, elevated to Caesar] to Autumn 283 AD [death of Carus], Antioch Mint (1st Officina). Obv. Radiate bust right, IMP C M AVR CARVS PF AVG/ Rev. VIRTUS AVGGG, Carus, standing right, receives Victory from Jupiter standing left, holding long scepter, star in upper field, A in lower middle field (= 1st Officina, Antioch Mint), XXI in exergue [20/1 copper/silver ratio of alloy]. RIC V-2 125(A), Sear RCV III 12190, ERIC II 141, Cohen 117. 20.25 mm., 3.59 g. [For the dating of Carus’s coins with AVGGG reverse (issued at Antioch mint only), see http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Carus.]

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    Carinus, AE Antoninianus, Feb/Mar 283 [promotion to Augustus] to Spring 285 [death of Carinus], Ticinum Mint [now Pavia, Italy] (3rd Officina). Obv. Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, IMP CARINVS P F AVG / Rev. Felicitas standing facing, head left, left elbow resting on column, holding caduceus with raised right hand, FELICIT PVBLICA; in exergue, TXXI [3rd Officina, 20/1 copper/silver ratio of alloy]. RIC V-2 295, Sear RCV III 12343 (ill.), Cohen 24, Pink [Karl Pink 1949] p. 29, Series 4. 23.6 mm., 3.83 g. [For dating, see http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Carus.]

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    Numerian, AE Antoninianus, Feb/Mar 283 [promotion to Augustus] to Nov. 284 [death of Numerian], Ticinum Mint [now Pavia, Italy] (6th Officina). Obv. Radiate and cuirassed bust right, IMP NVMERIANVS P F AVG / Rev. Providentia* standing facing, head left, holding corn ears with right hand over modius at feet left, and holding cornucopiae in right arm; in exergue, VIXXI [6th Officina, 20/1 copper/silver ratio of alloy]. RIC V-2 447, Sear RCV III 12253, Cohen 83, Pink [Karl Pink 1949] p. 29, Series 4. 22.6 mm., 4.15 g. Ex. Pegasi Numismatics, Auction 41, Dec. 11, 2019, Lot 627. [Soon to be formerly] in NGC slab, Cert. No. 5768552-009, Graded AU, Strike: 5/5, Surface 4/5.) [For dating, see http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Carus.]

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    *Despite the reverse legend referring to Providentia, the personification depicted has the attributes of Annona (grain and modius) rather than Providentia (globe). The legend and image can be interpreted as conveying that the foresight of the Emperor has permitted the abundance of Annona.

    I guess Diocletian is next; here are a few:

    Diocletian, silvered AE Follis, 294-295 AD, Nicomedia Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG/ Rev. Genius standing left, pouring out patera & holding cornucopiae, GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, mintmark SMN (Nicomedia). RIC VI 27a p. 556), Sear RCV IV 12788, ERIC II 539, Cohen 106. 27.8 mm., 8.6 g.

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    Diocletian, silvered AE Antoninianus, 293-294 AD, Antioch Mint (7th Officina). Obv. Radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right, IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG / Rev. Jupiter stdg. left, holding long scepter, presents Victory on globe to Diocletian, CONCORDIA MILITVM; Z in lower middle field (= 7th officina of Antioch mint), XXI in exergue. RIC VI 322 (p. 256), Sear RCV IV 12637, Cohen 34. 20.87 mm., 4.75 g.

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    Diocletian, billon abdication Follis, 305-307 AD, Trier Mint. Obv. Laureate bust right in imperial mantle (trabea), holding olive branch and mappa, D N DIOCLETIANO BAEATISSIMO SEN AVG / Rev. Providentia standing right, holding [scroll or short scepter?] and drapery with left hand and extending right hand to Quies standing left, holding branch downward with right hand and leaning on scepter with left hand, S - F across fields, PROVIDENTIA DEORVM QVIES AVGG; PTR in exergue. 27x28 mm., 9.6 gm. RIC VI Trier 673a (p. 208), Sear RCV IV 12927. [Die match to example sold by Numismatik Naumann in 2015; see https://www.acsearch.info/image.html?id=2337893.]

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  6. Severus Alexander

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    Maximian is next - here's my first-issue follis from London (LON mint mark):

    max lon follis.jpg

    For Diocletian, I'll post all of the first-issue reform folles I have so far.

    Alexandria:
    diocletian alexandria.jpg

    Heraclea:
    diocletian heraclea.jpg

    Nicomedia (yours is fabulous, @DonnaML!) :
    diocletian nicomedia.jpg

    Siscia:
    diocletian siscia.jpg

    Ticinum:
    diocletian ticinum.jpg

    For Antioch, the closest I've come is this rather poor 2nd issue:
    diocletian antioch.jpg

    Still missing: Rome (R in left field), Lugdunum (LA or LB, I have Constantius I), Aquileia (AQ), and Cyzicus (KV). These are hard to find, any leads appreciated!
     
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  7. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Here’s a Diocletian and a next Emperor Constantius from Alexandria.
    DiocletianRIC26a.JPG
    ConstantiusIAlexandriaRICVI-31a.JPG
    We’ll also have to hit Carausius and Allectus in Britain.
     
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  8. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Carausius
    Carausius antoninianus pax C mint.jpg

    Just for fun-

    A London mint PAX AVGGG by Carausius for Diocletian - the poor man's "ET FRATRES SVI"
    Carausius for Diocletian PAX AVGGG London.jpg
     
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  9. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I recently picked up Allectus!
    Allectus, Quinarius, VIRTVS AVG, QL.png
    Allectus
    293-296 AD
    Quinarius
    London Mint
    Obverse: IMP C ALLECTVS PF AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: VIRTVS AVG, galley rowing left. Mintmark QL
    ex: @Victor_Clark
     
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  10. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Great coins everyone! I think we still have Galerius from the original fab 4 and then onward and downward.
     
  11. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    To proceed, here is a Galerius:
    Rom – Galerius, Follis, Nikomedia.png
    Galerius Maximianus, Roman Empire, AE1, 308–311 AD, Nicomedia mint. Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG; head of Galerius, laureate, r. Rev: GENIO AVGVSTI CMH (ligated); Genius, wearing modius, nude, chlamys draped over l. shoulder, standing l., pouring liquid from patera in r. hand and holding cornucopiae in l. hand; in exergue, SMNA. 26mm, 7.52g. Ref: RIC VI Nicomedia 54a or 66a.
     
  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    another Galerius:

    P1180760 Galerius.JPG
     
  13. wittwolf

    wittwolf Well-Known Member

    I sadly dont own a Severus II. coin yet but here the members of the second tetrarchy I do own:
    Emperor Galerius - Follis - GENIO IMPERATORIS - Cyzikus mint
    Galerius GENIO IMPERATORIS.png
    Emperor Constantius I. - Follis - FIDES MILITVM - Ticinum mint
    Constantius I FIDES MILITVM.png
    Maximinus II. Caesar - 1/4 Follis - GENIO POPVLI ROMANI - Siscia mint
    Maximinus II GENIO POPVLI ROMANI.png
     
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  14. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Here is a Maximinus II from my recent $8 Ancients thread
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    Maximinus II
    AE Follis
    312 AD
    Obverse: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head right
    Reverse: GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, holding head of Sol and cornucopiae; star left, H right.
    Mintmark: ANT



    And my Severus II quarter follis from the same purchase
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    Severus II
    Quarter Follis
    305-306 AD
    Obverse: SEVERVS NOB C, laureate head right
    Reverse: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, modius on head, with chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera and cornucopiae
    Mintmark: SIS
     
  15. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

  16. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Three Licinius I and my lone Licinius II:

    licinius i cons.jpg licinius i helmet.jpg licinius i.jpg licinius ii.jpg
     
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  17. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I guess Constantine I logically would come right after Maxentius, but aren't there some others we haven't had yet? Like Maximinus II?

    Maximinus II (Daia) Caesar (nephew of Galerius) , AE Follis, 308-309 AD, Antioch Mint (2nd Officina).. Obv. Laureate head right, GAL VAL MAXIMINVS NOB CAES/ Rev. Genius standing left with chlamys over left shoulder and modius on head, holding cornucopiae in left arm and holding patera, from which libations flow, in extended right hand; crescent in upper left field and S [= 2nd Officina] in right field; GENIO CA-ESARIS*; in exergue, mintmark ANT [=Antioch]. RIC VI 103 (p. 631), Sear RCV IV 14725, Cohen 40-41. 25 mm., 6.90 g.

    Maximinus II Caesare, Follis of Antioch.jpg

    I suppose this counts as Maximinus II as well:

    Anonymous civic issue, reign of Maximinus II, AE quarter follis [?][Sear] or 1/12 nummus [?][McAlee], Antioch Mint (3rd Officina), ca. 311-312 AD. Obv. Tyche (city-goddess of Antioch) wearing mural crown, seated facing on rock, holding wheat or grain ears with right hand and, with left hand, holding a two-handled basket (filled with wheat or grain ears[?]) resting on ground to right, river god Orontes swimming below, GENIO ANTIOCHINI / Rev. Apollo standing left, pouring libation from patera held in right hand, and holding lyre in raised left hand, Γ [gamma, signifying 3rd Officina] in right field, APOLLONI SANCTO around; in exergue, SMA [meaning Sigmata Moneta Antioch (money struck at Antioch) or Sacra Moneta Antioch]. [Not in RIC; see http://www.notinric.lechstepniewski.info/6ant_civ_4v.html.] Sear RCV IV 14927 (ill); Vagi 2954; McAlee 170; Van Heesch Type 3 [Van Heesch, J. "The last civic coinages and the religious policy of Maximinus Daza (AD 312)" in Numismatic Chronicle (1993), pp. 63-75 & Pl. 11]; ERIC II, “Anonymous Religious Coinage of the Fourth Century,” pp. 1198-1199, No. 2. 16 mm., 1.35 g. [Struck either (1) to promote propaganda against Christians and aid in their persecution (and thus traditionally denominated the “Persecution issue”; or (2) as proposed by David Kalina, for use in festivals, including the Festival of Apollo at Daphne, held in conjunction with the Olympics in Antioch in 312 AD. See Kalina, David, “Anonymous Civic Coinage,” Series 1, at http://allcoinage.com/anonymous_civic.php.]

    Maximinus II persecution issue AE16 Antioch (Tyche-Apollo), McAlee 170, Sear 14927  jpg issue.jpg

    Here's another Licinius I:

    Licinius I, silvered AE Follis, Siscia Mint (4th Officina) 315-316 AD. Obv. Laureate head right, IMP LIC LICINIVS P F AVG / Rev. Naked Jupiter standing and facing left, chlamys across left shoulder, holding Victory on globe in right hand and leaning on scepter held in left hand; eagle with wreath in beak at his feet left, IOVI CON-SERVATORI. Δ [Delta] in right field, • SIS • in exergue. RIC VII Siscia 17 (p. 424), Sear RCV IV 15212, Cohen 66. 21 mm., 3.36 g.

    Licinius I - jpg version.jpg

    And I'll throw in a Constantine I as well:

    Constantine I, silvered billon Centenionalis, Siscia Mint 321-24 AD. Obv. Laureate head right, CONSTAN-TINVS AVG/ Rev. D N CONSTANTINI MAX AVG, laurel wreath enclosing VOT/•/XX. Mintmark Γ[gamma]SIS followed by sunburst/radiate semicircle [= Siscia mint, 3rd officina]. RIC VII 180 (p. 446), Sear RCV IV 16220. 20 mm., 3.38 g.

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  18. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    There was a Maximinus II coin posted above but I don’t think this thread is too strict. I think bopping back and forth so people can add their favorite coins of a ruler makes it more fun for everyone. Great coins @DonnaML, i especially like the persecution issue as that’s one I don’t have yet.

    I know for Constantine, we should page our resident expert @Victor_Clark for any highlights he may want to add.
     
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  19. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Another personality that I don’t know anyone has is Valerius Valens. I don’t have one and don’t know anyone that does… but I do have these two coins minted during the same issue and from the same mint as some of VV’s rare coins in 316.
    ConstantineIRIC17.JPG
    Constantine
    LiciniusIAlexandriaRICVII18.JPG
    Licinius
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    Valerius Valens (not my coin)

    For more information on Valerius Valens: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-valerius-valens-chronicles.358313/
     
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I might add this Constantine from the issue that brought us the rare Martinian but there is one(?) CT member with a Martinian so ignore the coin below.
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  21. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    If I was a time traveler… and Licinius asked me to join him as his number 2… I’d have to say no and then disappear in the dead of night. Haha.
     
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