2020 American Silver Eagle Reverse is not perpendicular to Obverse

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Thanks for your answer. I don't know anything about rotation or error. I'm learning. I wasn't going to get it graded for this reason. I like everything about it. Luster!!! You could cut the luster of it in half and it would still beat out other coins And if I were ever going to sell it buyers would know the grade. A seller can't sell a coin on eBay if they give a grade. Unless it has been professionally graded. And we all could give the same coin different grades

 

I wasn't gonna get it graded because I think it's an error coin. It is a very clean coin. There is not so much as a speck of dust on it. I mentioned in reply to another post that graded money, coins or currency, sell for more when it is graded. If two identical coins go through the grading process. Identical in every way and are given the same grade and one is slabbed and one isn't. Which do you think would sell first. I decided to sell all my raw coins and buy graded. I posted a coin once, I don't remember where and one guy tore me a new one telling me how my grading sucked. Every one on this thread has been great telling me things without making me feel like a dummy. What do think getting a coin graded to increase resale value. Not trying to start a new thread in the middle of one already started. If that is what will happen forget the question. Thanks

 

Even in these blurry photos, I can see spots on the coin. If there are no hits or other marks, maybe it would get MS68. Raw, you'd probably be able to sell it for $35-40. Slabbed, maybe $45. Where are you going to send it to get it slabbed for $5? How much will you pay for postage in both directions?

 

Not wanting to get it graded for any reason but resale value. I see graded that don't look as good as this for $200.00 or so. There's one site where someone is trying to sell one for $5,000.00 or so. Someone at this site had a Franklin for $5,000.00. I had three of the same coin in better condition. I told him this and I'll sell to him for $1,000.00 a piece. Never heard back. Slabbed is prestige. Coin looks better in a slab with a professional grade. I may never do it. I started collecting 5 or 6 ago. I retired and needed something to do. I like to spend money and with coin collecting I can buy and sell. If I decide to sell a coin i see what others are selling for and offer for less. I like help people out without taking half their paycheck. I answered the comment and then some. If it got a high grade and some special circumstances and is worth $500.00 I'd know. Professionals graded it. If it came back graded something and is worth fifty bucks. Now I know. It is worth it. For me it's a hobby. I can take a loss without taking food off the table. Yeah, I'd like to find that coin that's worth half a million. But I'm 99.9% sure I won't. Nothing is 100% sure.

 

If you've got money to burn, do it. Nothing more for anyone to really say. They've all offered their EXPERIENCED opinions. You've done your best to refute every one of them. That being the case there's truly no other reason to try to dissuade you. As Nike would say, Just Do It.

Please post the results here. Most others in your situation never follow up with the TPG results.

 

Oh, one more thing. I'm in the same camp as the others. Your ASE is improperly aligned in the 2x2. The date should be parallel to the bottom of the holder. The orientation you have the coin is wrong.

 

Here's the way the grading companies holder the ASE. Notice the orientation looks nothing like the way you've got yours in the 2x2.

From the JMBullion website:






If that's not enough samples for you I can continue to post more. Please LMK if you'd like me to continue.

 

You seem to be flopping back and forth between "I don't care about spending money" and "I might be able to make a big profit on this". It is, of course, your money.

It's possible that you've got lots of coins in top condition. It's more likely, though, that you can't yet distinguish the tiny differences between a top-condition coin and a more ordinary one. I can't do it reliably, and I've been at this for a good bit longer.

 

US Mint tolerance is 27 degrees -

Most services won't note a Rotated Reverse on the label
unless it's 45 degrees or more -

 

What about 387-degrees?

This OP is my new favorite - added to Follow list. I might even name my Follow list after him.

 

Coins are either rotated CW or CCW,
so there's no such thing as 387 degrees -
it's either 17 degrees CW, or 17 degrees CCW.

(think you were being funny though, right ?)

 

Trying to be funny.

 

I'd like to clear up one area. Not a coin collector alive that wouldn't like to discover an error coin that made it worth big bucks. I don't care about spending money. If I did I wouldn't be living pay check to pay check. Is it still called a pay check when it's retirement? Besides rent & cable my money goes for coins. Read my second sentence. Just letting my mind drift. And if it were worth big bucks I would maybe keep it. What coin collector wouldn't like to own a coin worth a couple hundred thousand. Especially when they bought it for under a hundred. I'd have to look up the receipt to know exactly what I paid. 64 bucks? I posted it on here for opinions and now I know things I wouldn't have known had I not posted. Like what she's walking on. Never knew it was there more or less being parallel to the bottom of the flip. Thanks to whoever posted the pics of the ASEs. This is the only ASE I have in a flip. Have maybe 10 that are graded. Somewhere I posted that I am going to buy only graded coins from now on. I'd also like to see how close I came with my (guess) grade of MS65. I would have given it a 70 but read where coins are seldom 70. I've stated before this is my hobby. I enjoy it. And I'll keep looking for that one that's worth big bucks. Saw a coin for sale for a quarter of a million dollars. Who wouldn't like that one in their collection? I don't have the money but I can have the dream. Thanks to everyone for their input. I'm learning.

 

You're very welcome
Glad it helped.

 

I think most collectors would prefer a raw bullion coin over one graded MS65. An MS65 is not going to increase resale value. You can get an MS69 for only a few dollars more than a raw one.

 

You know this thought went right over my head. I bought the ones I have between 40 & 70 dollars. I'm keeping it. Will ever be graded? ???? Thanks for the feedback.

 

The question then is what would it be? ASE's with a 180 rotation tend to be a significant marker for recent Chinese counterfeits.

Yes, for the two men who WROTE THE BOOK about Morgan and peace dollar varieties

And folks, he has been given our opinions on sending it in for grading. The choice on that matter is now up to him. If he still thinks it is worthwhile then he should send it in.

 

Yes that it is true but it can also be the real deal for ASE's and other coins that have been discovered and certified.If i recall correctly at some point i saw a rare commemorative coin in a regency holder with a fascinating 180 degree reverse rotation.

 

Yes it could possible be the real thing, but there are so many fake ASE's that have a 180 degree rotation that as soon as you see that rotation great big warning flags start going up.