2020 American Silver Eagle Reverse is not perpendicular to Obverse

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Rob Scholl, Oct 2, 2021.

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Anyone ever see this type of stamp. Is it an error?

  1. Yes, iit is caused by the coin turning before it is stamped

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  2. Looks like an error to me

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  1. Rob Scholl

    Rob Scholl New Member

    If you look at the Obverse then carefully turn the coin around you'll see the Reverse is at an angel. I uploaded a ASE Silver Dollar Reverse for comparison. The on the comparison Reverse Is straight and down. Now look at the 2020 Reverse you'll see what I mean. I searched the internet and nothing about this error. If it is. I don't know much about what makes an error. Will they name it after me if it is first discovered.
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No

    Your coin in not placed in the 2x2 correctly. It is slightly tilted. That would make the other side look rotated.

    The definition would be.. Rotated Die if it was the case. Common issue.
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

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  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Named after you ? Its not a comet .:hilarious:
     
  6. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Maybe look more at other coins besides this one...I believe it's fairly common to a degree (no pun intended)...but a little, etc...within an acceptable tolerance. In fact, I find that more coins than not aren't exactly plumb from obv to rev when flipped over.
     
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  7. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Now say if the reverse was the same as the obverse also known as a 180 rotation then that would be something.But like said above the coin is just slightly tilted caused by not placing it in straight.
     
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  8. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    LOL no,your not going to be a billonar:wacky::wacky:sorry,most rotations are very common pretty sure thousands of them exist already even for ASE's.Just because I'm the president and find a new discovery ddo there not going to name it after me,I wish:rolleyes::rolleyes:.
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    PD, don't get the idea that I'm just singling you out, but the fact is that you goofed here. If the reverse was the same as the obverse (which is called "medal alignment") it would be a 180 degree rotation, not 360.

    There is nothing wrong with making a mistake. That's part of learning!
     
  10. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Yes a simple mistake:banghead::banghead:.
     
  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Aw, man, I wish you'd said that before I posted this YouTube video about my HOARD of RARE 360-degree rotated reverse coins... ;)
     
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  12. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

    Here's what Paddyman88 is saying... LEVEL COIN.jpg
     
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  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    As usual the dirt man is right, PM98 that is. Nice coin, thanks for sharing.
     
  14. Phil's Coins

    Phil's Coins Well-Known Member

    Somehow got posted as a "guest" to repeat: STAPLES! R E A L L Y?
     
  15. Rob Scholl

    Rob Scholl New Member

    Not in the 2x2 correctly? I lay the flip open on the desk. I place the coin on it and, in this case, (Miss Liberty) line her up straight up and down. Never noticed what she's walking on. If I make it evenly parallel with the edge of the flip she would be leaning backwards. I'm gonna submit it for grading and see how it comes back (Grade) Thanks for answer
     
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Take it from someone who made a hobby of drafting, mechanical drawing and AutoCAD over a 50+ year span, you don't have it aligned properly. You can see that the horizontal line shown in red in Post #11 is parallel to the edge of the 2x2. It should also be parallel to the top edge of the exergue in which you see the date.

    Miss Liberty is in a walking position with her right leg trailing her left leg. The stride of her left leg is not the center of her mass. It is somewhere between her legs. She's not leaning backwards.
     
  17. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Send a bullion coin in to sit in plastic for no reasono_Oo_OIts your choice but its not going to benefit you.
     
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  18. Rob Scholl

    Rob Scholl New Member

    VAM is named after two men. Stars get named after the person that discovers it. I wanted my 15 minutes of fame. lol I'm gonna get it graded and then I'll know.
    If Miss Liberty (Obverse) was turned at any angle the Eagle (Reverse) would be turned the same angle. Let's say Miss Liberty is straight up and down. No angle. Now turn it without tilting it. The Eagle should be the same. With this coin that is not what you see. What you see is the Eagle is at about a 16 degree angle. I have the reverse of another ASE for comparison. It's Reverse has an Eagle strait up and down at no angle. I respect every one's input. Probably everyone answering has been at this more years than me. I'm in my 3rd and started because it is fascinating. HAD TO buy a "horse blanket". Didn't ever hear of them. They're neat. I couldn't imagine having a wad of them in your pocket. I've owned some pants where there was room for a couple coins. Your keys might fall out they were so shallow. I'll be back to read the posts. Since I first came to CoinTalk I've learned a few things. I won't get to answer everybody but I will read all the posts. Thanks everyone Rob
     
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  20. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Your coin is totally tilted in the 2x2 o_O
    Everyone else can also see it. It's not rotated.
    It is not an error. You can send it in for grading but need to spend a little more for error attribution. And if it were rotated it would have to be a major rotation to be considered a worthwhile error.
    Don't waste your money.
     
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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Hold the coin in front of a mirror so you can see the obverse and reverse at the same time. You'll see that the reverse is oriented the same as the obverse.

    Look at any number of online photos of the ASE. You'll see that they're nearly always oriented with the ground horizontal on on the obverse, and the shield vertical on the reverse. If you prefer to see Lady Liberty strolling downhill, that's fine -- but if you send it to be graded, they'll send it back to you oriented with the ground flat.
     
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