1964 D/D 5c Jefferson?

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  1. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    Howdy,
    I had this Jefferson up a few days back asking about die deterioration causing orange peel finish. I completely forgot to ask about the MM. I can't seem to match it with anything on Variety or Wexler's and need help to determine if it is an rpm and if so the variety. Thanks for any help 20210924_121954.jpg 20210924_122032.jpg Image_2021-09-29 09_02_15_826.JPG
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Can I ask a simple question ? Did you see anything remotely similar ? We will help if you present us with something to compare it to . Thanks
     
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  4. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    On Wexler it resembles WRPM-005 but the markers don't seem to be visible on the M in Unum or the first L in Montecello.
     
  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  6. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    Thanks SensibleSal66 Wexler's has the similar bubble strike but because the die was so deteriorated, I could not find the markers. And I don't see anything on Vista that has the bubble look. Of course I'm probably wrong but that's nothing new...lol
     

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  7. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Yea, it's a tough one . Might not be worth having it looked at for all your troubles . Not to mention time and money involved .
     
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  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Looks like die deterioration doubling. Not surprising considering the die wear
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Those dies were really wasted. That's just how the planchets strike out on wasted dies.
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like DDD to me.
     
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  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    My opinion would be a guess so I will wait for the more experienced to chime in. Very interesting coin. Thanks
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Worn dies, these early 60 Jeffersons were also known for weak strikes/ FS coins are rare.
     
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  13. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    But I was under the impression mm's were put on working dies after 1989. So how could it be DDD?
     
  14. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Prior to 1989, the mm was individually stamped into each working die (the die used to strike coins). Since then, it's added upstream in the die making process (I can't recall if it's the working hub or master die step).

    Die deterioration is caused by abrasion/erosion due to the moving metal of tens of thousands of coins. Here is some more info explaining DDD from Wexler's site.

    https://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html
     
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  15. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    I thought they still hand punched the mint mark in 1989! That was the last year!!! Am I wrong???
     
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