Ducats ... Ducats ... Ducats

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by silvereagle82, Dec 19, 2009.

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I mean that the Russian government intentionally minted copies of the Netherlnads ducats and they did it for years. They made their own dies, they used the same fineness of gold and they minted and then issued the coins into circulation. They did this for almost 100 years. They did this until the Netherlands government politley asked them to stop doing so.

    As to why - they did it because the Netherlands ducat was most widely and readily accepted coin there was at the time. Every country in Europe and the parts of Asia and Africa surrounding the Mediterranean accepted this coin without question.
     
    GDJMSP, Jan 19, 2010
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Never cease to be amazed by that seeing that I paid $200 for the first and just over $300 for the second, in a higher grade, just 5 years ago.
     
    GDJMSP, Jan 19, 2010
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  4. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    :bigeyes:
     
    Luis, Jan 19, 2010
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  5. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Here are a couple of more "non-Netherlands" ducats

    German States (Mainz)
    1795 Ducat
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    and who says a ducat has to be round .....

    German States (Nurnberg)
    1700IMF Ducat (Klippe)

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    silvereagle82, Jan 24, 2010
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  6. Zohar444

    Zohar444 Member

    Conrad, these are phenomenal!
     
    Zohar444, Feb 8, 2010
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  7. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    Beautiful Venetian ducat Conrad with quite the sharp strike.
     
    hiho, Feb 8, 2010
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  8. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    I remember those days. You were probably the guy always outbidding me. I was the guy always bidding $188. :eek:
     
    hiho, Feb 8, 2010
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ducats were the ugly redheaded stepchild of the coin world until I started collecting them, writing about them, posting pics of them, and bragging about how cheaply they could be acquired.

    After just a couple years of that - EVERYBODY was buying ducats ! And prices skyrocketed.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 8, 2010
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  10. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Tigers,

    I assume "LAHMDUKAT" translates as "Lamb Ducat" ??

    Thanks for your post.
     
    silvereagle82, Feb 8, 2010
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  11. Kjetil Kvist

    Kjetil Kvist Junior Member

    Hello CoinTalk! This is my first post, so please be gentle.

    I just have a simple question: I came accross another 1849 ducat, and wonder if this is the russian imitation.

    Best regards, Kjetil (Norway).
     

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  12. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Umm, "Lahmdukat" would be a lame ducat. :rolleyes: This "Lamb Ducat" is a "Lammdukat" in German ... or, in this particular case, a Lammdukaten-Klippe.

    Christian
     
    chrisild, Mar 24, 2010
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  13. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Welcome Kjetil! And yes, we're mostly nice and friendly here. :) As for your ducat, all I can provide is a statistical answer: The total mintage of the 1849 piece is 4,764,344 -- and 4,750,000 of those were made in Russia. So yes, "Russian" is likely. Doug (GDJMSP) can probably tell you better whether yours is from ...

    Christian
     
    chrisild, Mar 24, 2010
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  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Howdy Kjetil - Welcome to the Forum !

    Yes, that coin was minted in Russia.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 25, 2010
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  15. zantetsuken

    zantetsuken Junior Member

    Welcome aboard Kjetil. That's a beautiful specimen. I've seen these before online, but not as nice as the one you posted. Thanks for sharing, and have fun.

    ~Daniel
     
    zantetsuken, Mar 25, 2010
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  16. Kjetil Kvist

    Kjetil Kvist Junior Member

    Thank you all.

    Yes, it's a really nice coin. It comes from an old Norwegian collection, and my picturs really don't do it justice.

    - Kjetil
     
    Kjetil Kvist, Mar 25, 2010
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  17. vikram

    vikram Junior Member

    1915 Austrian 4 Ducat

    Hello,

    I have just received a recently purchased Austrian 4 ducat from 1915.

    However, I've been thinking that it's a fake one. It weighs .49 ounces which is a bit too heavy for a 4 Ducat. It also doesn't feel like a real gold coin.

    I am attaching a few pictures of the coin. Could you please advise whether it is genuine or not?

    Many thanks.

    Vikram
     

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    vikram, May 1, 2010
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  18. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    No. It is not fake. This is an official restrike.
     
    Siberian Man, May 2, 2010
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  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes that is too heavy. It should be 13.96 grams. But how sure are you of your scale ? I would suggest taking it to a jewelry store and having it weighed, in grams.
     
    GDJMSP, May 2, 2010
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  20. vikram

    vikram Junior Member

    Weighing and returning

    Hi,

    Thanks for your reply. I just weighed it again on my weighing machine and found that it is exactly 13.96 grams. The weighing scale was purchased recently and should be accurate.

    Please advise. The seller has replied and has given me an option of returning it to him.

    Should I go ahead with the return?

    Vikram
     
    vikram, May 2, 2010
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  21. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Vikram,

    If you want a restrike 1915 Austrian 4 ducat in that grade ... Keep it, it's appears to be genuine.
    You never did say how much you paid for it, hopefully not much over current bullion price.
     
    silvereagle82, May 2, 2010
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