What on earth is going on here? Spanish mystery edition

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mark Metzger, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I can’t even begin to tell what is going on with this coin. Any ideas???
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  3. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Possible multistruck coin from what I can see.
     
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  4. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    I don’t know about the coin but I like the Alligator skin it is on.
    How do you get him to hold still?
     
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  5. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Are you sure it's real? The letters don't look like coin letters, and there's a backwards S.
     
  6. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    You kill it, tan its hide, and make something out of its skin.:eek:
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    This. It is not even remotely genuine, but rather a crudely-made counterfeit. But that’s not necessarily bad news. If it is a contemporary counterfeit from the late 18th or early 19th century, it might be worth as much as a real example of the coin it is imitating.

    What’s the diameter, Mark?

    It’s a cool piece, despite being as fake as the day is long. I would surmise that its very crudeness is a good sign that it’s a contemporary and not a modern fake, though that is mere speculation on my part.

    If intended to pass in commerce, it likely would have had a thin wash of silver or tin or mercury or something, to give it a silvery color. Such thin coatings did not always survive, particularly if the “coin” spent any time buried in the ground.

    This piece looks to have been struck(?) in brass.
     
  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Assuming it's about 25mm in diameter, it's a contemporary counterfeit of a 2 Real or "Pistareen." I can't make out what the date is supposed to be. Maybe 1791? The dies are unlisted in both Kleeberg's article and Lorenzo's supplement.
     
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