My ebay listing was removed

I have several copper plated 1943 cents, I listed one on ebay with the title '1943 Copper Plated Lincoln Steel Cent Counterfeit'. Ebay removed it as a listing violation. I guess I can't sell them, even if I am honest.

 

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It's my understanding that selling counterfeit money in general is illegal, though I might not have the right info on the matter.

 

So were you getting bids on it yet? How high did it go? Just breaking up a rainy day!

 

I am confused?

Are they real 1943 cents that have been copper plated?

If not, then I think you could have more of a probem than just ebay if you try to sell them. (As in, Secret Service.)

 

I hope not as I have many couterfeit Obsolete notes and see them all the time.

 

Remember, on eBay the customers do the policing.
That's why some auctions are pulled when others, seemingly the same, aren't.

And who knows WHAT the people at eBay are thinking when they read a report about a listing that violates eBay's rules.
Sometimes the reported item is pulled; sometimes not.

 

Captainkirk

Should have keft "counterfeit" off. I, for one, would have read the description and realized that this is an offering to sell 1943 steel Cent pieces that were plated with a layer of copper and not real rare genuine copper cents. No intention to defraud.

 

It would probably fly if listed as "Copper plated 1943 steel cent" The word "counterfeit" is probably what got it flagged and pulled.

 

Yep, they're not counterfeit, leave counterfeit out of the ad. Also, it's my understanding that any counterfeit money could be seized by the Feds.

 

Clinker is absolutely right. The word 'counterfeit' doesn't apply to your coin. It IS authentic, though it's been copper plated, like so many others of this year. Just relist it, as there really is no deception or fraud going on. So long as you state its copper plated, you are good to go.

Kanga makes a valid point, in regard to ebayers policing the listings. It's miniscule things like this that make it seem like some people go to far, but some of those that do go too far have done a great service to the hobby and have saved unknowing, undereducated collectors literally thousands upon thousands of dollars.

Relist your Lincolns, but stay away from the word counterfeit, mention the plating, and you'll be fine. If theres a sudden problem with 'layered' coins, the ALOT of listings would need pulling. Look at all the listings for 'gold layered' and 'platinum layered' coins.

 

I see the problem now. There were no bids. But, I agree, why can't I sell a copper plated cent, when there are so many gold, platinum, and silver plated coins listed. I will re-list with 'counterfeit' omitted. I think I'll wait a few weeks though, I don't want to get kicked off ebay. They did send me a warning.

 

Does it look like a regular Lincoln cent, got a pic?

 

I should amend the thought: I believe that it is illegal to sell any counterfeit money that could potentially be used in commerce.

Edit: My comments are also not meant to suggest that the OP's auction actually contained counterfeit coins, just that for the reason I stated above, it would be reasonable that an auction be pulled.

 

Because it is an attempt to copy a 1943 copper cent. It is against federal law as well as eBay rules to sell it unless it is marked "copy" or "replica". Marked like that, you can call it counterfeit, copy or anything you like.

 

By the by, here is the regulations;

 

You raise an interesting legal question. Since the steel cent is a genuine coin, yet is copper plated and advertised as such, is it governed by the rules for coins plated with gold, etc? Or since it’s plated with copper, thus, emulating a rare coin, is it governed by the Hobby Protection Act?

 

No and then Yes. Why else would you copper plate a steel cent were it not to be a replica of the 1943 copper cent? By the way, eBay and their lawyers agree with me. Since it is eBay and coins, that likely means the ANA does also.

 

I'd say I agree, the Hobby Protection Act should apply, as a rare coin is emulated. Aren't gold plated examples of rare gold pieces stamped copy? Yet, as we all know, there are numerous examples of 43 copper plated cents out there not marked copy, and we all know the confusion and loss these have created. Another good example is the Racketeer Nickel, the 1883 no cents nickel, with only a roman numeral V to note five and when gold plated was passed as a $5 gold piece.

 

Just run it as "Copper Plated". It is not an issue to run Plated / defaced coins..
DONT try to Lie.. Be very descriptive.
COUNTERFEIT was the incorrect word.. PLATED would be correct..

 

Call it anything you want, until it is stamped "COPY" and/or "REPLICA", it will get pulled.