Good afternoon all Pretty sure this has been struck through debris so thought I would share some pictures to verify. There’s no excess metal around the area so I’m 99% sure it’s not PMD of any kind. Strike through by Darren Edwards posted Sep 22, 2021 at 5:03 PM Strike through by Darren Edwards posted Sep 22, 2021 at 5:03 PM Strike through by Darren Edwards posted Sep 22, 2021 at 5:03 PM
Wrong again lol. How can I determine if it’s a strike through moving forwards. I looked for any damage or moved metal around the area and couldn’t find any and the area where the damage is looked smooth in appearance ( at least it did to me ) any help would be much appreciated
Is there any way to determine if that happened? I’m still trying to figure out the difference between some kinds of errors and PMD and I thought I had got it right with this one but now I’m not so sure
My thoughts exactly, that’s why I wanted to know if there was a way I can identify this for myself in the future? I hate thinking I’ve found something then realizing it’s nothing more than PMD when I think I’ve done my research and still got it wrong
I can't tell you how to tell them apart, but I can tell you that reeded edge hits almost always look just like your's. It;s very common, and asked about often on here.
I think it is a struck thru coin, it seems much to deep for a reeded edge hit. There should be a mark on Georges forehead. I don't think any coin could dent the field that close to Georges head without hitting there also. Never seen a hit remove part of a design letter and I see no raised metal around the edge of the indent. Third photo. Keep it and revisit this coin in a year or so, you will know more at that time.
Thank you all for the replies, any info is always appreciated in helping to learn how to identify certain errors.
Beardigger, posted: "I can't tell you how to tell them apart, but I can tell you that reeded edge hits almost always look just like your's. It;s very common, and asked about often on here." I disagree 100%. I have NEVER, EVER seen a reed mark on any coin that looked as this. Blowing up the image shows a very thin partial raised lip on one side so it may be some sort of punch damage but the reverse shows no signs of that. W/O seeing the coin, I'm sticking with struck thru BUT Fred is the error expert.
Honestly, I have always been taught that this was damage, but at the same time I have wondered on some coins if the could be struck thru reeding debris. These marks whatever they R, are so distracting that I don't mind calling them damage
Thanks again for all the replies, weather it’s mint damage or PMD ( most likely PMD ) I’ve decided to just keep it in my oddities book until a later date when I can maybe get someone to verify it in hand. As stated it’s very hard to 100% determine anything when just looking at a picture ( especially the pictures I take as they are generally out of focus lol ) again thanks all for the replies, I appreciate all opinions and comments on my posts
Insider - 'reeding' hits don't affect the other side of the coin unless something caused it to bend from excessive pressure of the other coin's reeding; And I'm only human - I could be wrong, but it certainly looks like reeding hits (or similar damage) to me. I usually say 'based on the photos'........
Fred Weinberg, posted: "Insider - 'reeding' hits don't affect the other side of the coin [I agree] unless something caused it to bend from excessive pressure of the other coin's reeding; [ That would take a big chunk of reeding to bend the coin]. And I'm only human - I could be wrong, [Don't be modest- you da man!] but it certainly looks like reeding hits (or similar damage) to me. I usually say 'based on the photos'........"
Not a ''chunk' of reeding, but some force that pressed one quarter's edge into this coin, bending it.
Would take a lot of force to dig in as deep as it looks. I couldn't make one like that if I laid a coin on a steel table and placed another coin vertically on it and then wacked it with a sledge. IF that would actually work there would be a progression of depth along the mark - deep in the middle and weaker at both edges. I don't see that here. IF this is PMD, it would need to be some sort of punch BUT that should leave evidence on the reverse opposite the punch. Hard to reach a positive opinion w/o the coin in hand. PS What's this retiring business above?
You could always spend the money to send it in and get a TPG to authenticate it, one way or the other.