Is this really an error coin?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by potty dollar 1878, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Serious Question : How does a cent planchet find it's way between two 25 cent dies?
    Edit : To Jim , I was typing my question even as you were typing yours.
     
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  3. Old Error Guy

    Old Error Guy Well-Known Member

    There’s really very little difference between the thickness of a quarter planchet and a cent planchet, so there is not as much spreading and distortion as one might think. Everything is dependent, of course, on the minimum die clearance.
     
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  4. Old Error Guy

    Old Error Guy Well-Known Member

    It’s a nice example. So many strike clips are very small. I don’t believe any of the three major graders certify these, at least I’ve never seen one. I find that bizarre.
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Will you please take the time (when you have a chance) to explain what a strike clip is and the steps in the process that caused it to happen.

    Found it on Error-Ref Thanks! Now I :bucktooth: need to take the time to understand what I'm reading! :D
     
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  6. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    I posted my response before working to the end of the string and saw the answer. I felt the missing edges had either been filed or ground off. Just surprised that a cent planchet would provide enough material to fill this much of a quarters die. A good look at the edge, edge on, would give a better idea of its thickness, but we don't have that view. So I was guessing based on a simple assumption. Paddyman provided a good explanation and I've learned something new today. Anything more today will just be icing on the cake. thx
     
  7. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Mike Thornton, posted: "I posted my response before working to the end of the string and saw the answer."

    No worry, I do it all the time and imagine it frustrates some people.
     
  8. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    This has been done ever since the Mint started coining. There is always someone willing to take a chance, no matter how stupid it is. And then there are just machine breakdowns that cause odd items that get past inspectors. Maintenance and QC have always seemed to be less important in Philly than at the other Mints. Inspections are done at intervals, there is not a person sitting on top of each press all day. There is tech that should catch these odd items but that tech is not infallible.
     
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  9. Old Error Guy

    Old Error Guy Well-Known Member

    Is the author of Error-Ref (Mike Diamond) points out, these occurred primarily during the late 80's and early 90's. Something about the way the collar system was designed made them subject to several "stiff collar" errors.

    To make the conversation a little easier, I'm posting an unremarkable off center cent. Imagine that something came along and sheared off the blank area. What you would have left would be an elliptical coin. Very simplistically, that's what happens.

    Maybe Fred will stop by and comment.
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  10. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    and the price triple what the "loose" ones did, lol ha prices are ridiculous
     
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  11. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    most likely removed by the employee who assisted in making the coin, me thinks
     
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  12. Old Error Guy

    Old Error Guy Well-Known Member

    I’m not naive enough to believe all mint errors occurred and escaped without help - a lot some times. I will say, that in the days banks got loose bags of coins from the fed, many errors were found in the counting rooms.
     
  13. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    yes, and by people who bought 50.00 bags of cents, lol i found quite a few blanks back in the day, nothing else, but back then was not a serious collector of errors, those were mere curiosities, or junk back in the early 80's poor man dd were about 25 cents, blanks about 1.00 and the 55 dd probably around 300.00 most others were not on display or not available in the coin shows i sold at back then... i wish i would of starteed back then with all the old silver errors...i also remember one peculiar dealer who used to cherry pick every dealers table (he was the man running the show) his name was serafino, he used to buy any and all full step nickels, fbl halves (franklin) and any frosted proof early silver...he was decades ahead of the game..he would always pay the asking price also, never a discount asked..like he knew something other did not...
     
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  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    @JCro57
     
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  15. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I didn't read all the responses, but how would a strike of this nature get a partially reeded edge if it were struck on a planchet made for a cent?

    Z
     
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Brilliant Simply Brilliant
     
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  17. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Looks to me like sombody made a guitar pick out of a quarter and plated it to resemble copper.

    Z
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Serafino musta got my brain.
     
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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Tilted die?
     
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  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Frustrates no.
     
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  21. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I believe it is genuine.
     
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