http://cgi.ebay.com/1992-D-1992D-Cl...mQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item3a56c3981c looks like one. Wouldnt it be a good buy?
There have been more than 15 found and it's dog coin, a There have been more than 15 found and it's dog coin, a rare coin but all I would ever see is "dog" each and every time I looked at it. It's not mentioned much concerning varieties but a coins look or preservation is very important. It is after all the "look" and difference with the look that we long to see. When you look at a coin and first see "it's problem" or "preservation" or in this case the lack of that you are going to see that first and each and every time. We want to enjoy looking at the coin - I would not enjoy looking at this coin.
Well, I search coins all day.. And plan on finding mine at face value.. I don't care if it takes forever.. If I was to spend 1900.00 on a Cent It would have to be a needed Key.. On these modern ones.. well I think ( Hope ) they are still in Circulation.. and CAN be found... To be honest I don't know what the going value is for that variety, But for me.. I will keep searching boxes.... and Boxes.. And Boxes...
They're out there, its just not well known to the general public. When I found my 1946 inverted S wheat cent, I believe fewer than 10 had been discovered. This population is on the rise and so will the CAM. One thing to remember is, did the mint use these dies to coin only a handful of these coins, or were 10's of thousands made. My money is on thousands...
Know way to know for sure but I think it is very rare. Know way to know for sure but I think it is very rare. I don't think there will be thousands found, far from it maybe not even a hundred. I have searched (since learning of it) over 1,000,000 cents and not found one, found all wide AM's 2 99, couple dozen each of the other 2 but no 92-P or D close AM's. I have the feeling that the mint caught it and removed the die and even if they did not we got 2 other factors working against us: 1. Not a heavly saved roll - the end of the roll saving age was long sinced past (the early 70's) and no one was paying attension to this year/mint cent. 2. Time, yes it has been 18 years ago and many are simply gone. But, if it's to be found it will be found in circ. cent searches like we are doing.
I wonder why he put a BIN price? Since none of these has gone to auction (that I know of), he artificially set a ceiling that could be too low. This is one I'd have slabbed before selling anyway. People want to be sure before shelling out that kind of $. And yes, I keep looking for mine at face, lol.
I need to study up on this one.. I look for it like ALL the others in Cherry Pickers and any that I know of out of CopperCoins.com but if it is that rare well... I am looking a bit harder.. My Eyes My Eyes!! I would have that Slabbed too! I would love to see how high it might go..
Based on the FG I would say it is legit. (I have a page on my site about WAMs and CAMs http://www.lincoln-cents.cuvelier.org/Design/WAM-CAM.html) Price is personal opinion as it is impossible to determine how much a '92D CAM is worth. A lot of these get sold off the radar for differing amounts - for at least $1000 or so, but I worry the price will go down before it goes up. What worries me with this coin specifically is I suspect it has been partially cleaned (at least in goo gone which can be problematic on AUs and BUs) the surface seems a tad shiny and the color seems wrong somehow - but I could be full of it. The seller of this coin should get it certified and if it is all okay, it might sell for the amount they are asking, but as is I doubt anyone makes an offer anywhere near that amount... ...and no returns accepted...why would someone take a chance on something like this with no returns?
I have no problem with raw coins, and no return is between you and the seller. If you are going to buy this coin, or any coin, you should know what you are looking at and have at least some knowledge in what you are thinking of purchasing. Lincoln cents are not my expertise, but looking at that coin, the '2' in the date just jumps out. Something does not seem right about it. Most of the '2' on the 1992-D LMC I have seen are shorter than the '1'. It appears, by sight, that the '2' and '1' are the same length. The neck on the '2' seems to be too long, IMO, from what I have seen on most of the 1992-D LMCs I have personally seen. The front base of the '2' also appears to be too "boxy", whereas most of the '2's I have seen on these is more curved and flows into the base. The front curve of the '2' on most of the 1992-D LMCs I have handled usually ends further west of the base of the '2'. This particular coin seems to have a base and and front curve that are even. And would not buy the coin and would personally suspect that it is possibly not authentic. RDV-007 (the close AM) began in 1993, so the possibility is there that a 1993 could be tooled, though such suspicions could only be validated by actually seeing the coin in hand.
Retooling a digit on a copper plated coin seems like a daunting task to cover up. Maybe not impossible, but a lot harder than taking a straight copper issue and creating a D from the field on a 1914 LWC. Looking at a 1993 LMC I see the 3 has a totally different shaped top and it extends below the two 9s - not an easy transition to a 2, but anything is possible. Though I am not certain that the 2 on the auction specimen appears off to begin with...
They wouldn't retool a digit. They would build it in the same way as a Magician's coin. make a shell from a 1992 D obverse and an insert from a Close AM cent. I am not saying that this is the case with this coin but I wouldn't buy it at any price unless I could look at it closely, and in person. Anyone who works in a facility where magician's coins are made and who has some numismatic education could make these in 20 minutes or less.
It looks like there is a seam all the way around the rim on the reverse of the coin. I sure wouldn't buy it raw. Look at the enlarged pics. Just IMO looking at the pics. I could be wrong.
Those 3 pics are taken at the wrong angle and are hiding the seam if there is one. We need to see the inside edge of the rim.
Maybe the seller misunderstood what part of the coin to take pictures of but as stated they have to be taken from a different angle. Can the seller weigh the coin?
