1803 cent what's that between the 8 and 0? P.M. damage? or error?

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  1. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

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  3. Treashunt

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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like the planchet was cracked before striking. It’s now worn down in that area but still a nice looking coin.
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Treashunt correctly answered the OP's question. It's a die crack.

    Now for educational purposes...

    "Collecting Nut, posted: "Looks like the planchet was cracked before striking. It’s now worn down in that area but still a nice looking coin."

    Think about what you posted and explain what you see on the coin that rules out a cracked planchet. After a while, should you chose not to comment, I'm sure someone else will. ;)

    PS I don't understand how two members can "like" a correct answer and one that is incorrect in the same thread. Perhaps these are "participation likes." :D
     
  6. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    At first I was thinking of a lamination but agree above,nice full date.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It doesn’t look raised to me. It looks indented.
     
  8. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    thank you folks. Die crack it is then! If you don't know, you ASK, well I didn't know to be honest! Now I do.
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Collecting Nut, posted: "It doesn’t look raised to me. It looks indented."

    :happy: Good eye! You are half way to the answer. Do both sides of the crooked line look indented?
     
  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Your coin is S-261
     
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  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    This is one that could be jumped on prematurely. Close look shows the crack under the 8 and following up through the bust.
     
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  12. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    thank you insider. worth a slab or leave that to the crickets?
     
  13. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    would anyone here think it's worth slabbing? or the PCGS would just give it a generic slab description?
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    To me, yes.
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Collecting Nut, posted: "It doesn’t look raised to me. It looks indented."

    :happy: Good eye! You are half way to the answer. Do both sides of the crooked line look indented?

    Collecting Nut, answered: "To me, yes."

    They are not. The left side looks indented because the right side is slightly higher. This is a late stage of the die. An advanced Large cent collector would probably like to have it so don't waste money having it slabbed.

    @Collecting Nut Make sure you can see the difference now. If not, I'll post some more.
     
  16. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    ok thank you, no slab for this baby. Keeping it raw
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s just hard for me to see, especially in a photo. All my life I’ve had a problem with depth perception. At times, as a teenager, it almost kept me from getting my drivers license. Thanks for explaining.
     
  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Look again. One side of the mark is darker (lower) than the other (higher).
     
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  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Here is a higher grade example.
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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    This obverse die was also used later outside to mint, after alteration, to make the 1804 restrike cents using an 1818 rev die.
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  21. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    wow talk about cool history thanks for that tidbit conder101
     
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