Coins from Pemba...

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by galba68, Aug 31, 2021.

  1. galba68

    galba68 Well-Known Member

    I got these coins today in some exchange for ancient coins..I got them very cheap, but I still don't know their true value..I only know that two coins are from island of Pemba, but Im not sure for third coin, Edward VII..I wish if someone knows more to explain to me about these coins and their value...

    Two one shilling, George V and Edward VII six pence..

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  3. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    They are very unusual and look forward to learning more about them.
     
  4. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    Interesting coins. Unusual to see a c/s on a six pence. The c/s on the top two is in the shape of a clove. There are some listed in Stephen Album's auctions and they are noted as "considered to be spurious issues".
     
  5. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Not to be a Negative Nancy, but that Pemba "clove" countermark comes up a lot on eBay on a wide array of host coins. They have been extensively faked, or, maybe faked is the wrong word - as @Muzyck notes, they are usually considered to be "spurious."

    That crowned P.M countermark has to be a modern fabrication; the Portuguese authorities countermarked foreign coins for Mozambique in 1887 (see Krause Standard Catalog - "Decree of March 31, 1887") and Edward VII came to the throne in 1902. As I seem to recall, thee was only one die used for this countermark and I've never heard of a coin dated later than 1887 with the countermark.

    All of these Mozambique countermarks have been extensively faked - I collected these for a while, but they got too expensive (and too faked). Here are a couple of oddities, British coins countermarked for Mozambique. The shilling has a mount mark at top and I bought it from Karl Stephens. The florin is close in size to the usual rupee countermarked for Mozambique, so it might be legitimate, but it might be a fake too. :oops:

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  6. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    Is that a Shilling?
     
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  7. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    Left image, yes, of course. And right a "gothic" florin.
     
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  8. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Oops. :inpain: Yes, that's a shilling.
     
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