Here's a silly denomination

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  1. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Panama 1 1/4 centesimos. It's hard to imagine any reason to use such a silly denomination. I know it's half of the 2 1/2 centesimos, which is half of the 5 centesimos, but come on. 1940 panama 1.25 centesimos09.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Guess who minted them?
    In 1940, the U.S. Mint struck bronze 1-1/4 centesimos
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Panama Pill
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    Britain Three halfpence
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  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It would make sense if things cost so little that 5 centimos was considered a lot.

    The US did have 1.25 cent postage stamps at one time, after all.
     
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  6. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    You also have quirky situations as in Elizabethan England when a three farthings (3/4 of a penny) was introduced. The reason for this was the impractically small size of a silver farthing based on it's intrinsic value having to equal it's face value. So you handed over a penny and received 3/4d in change, or alternatively used a three farthings and received a halfpenny.
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Here's the solution
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  8. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    These fractional denominations are just weird to me. I understand it comes from splitting a larger denomination like 25 or 5 in half but it's still strange when you think of it in terms of real prices. Here's two more. 1929 panama 2.5 centesimos08.jpg 1946 venezuela 12.5 centimos08.jpg
     
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  9. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    The farthing situation was resolved in 1613 with the introduction of the copper Harington farthings, but they weren't popular. If you mean we should have had the cent as the smallest unit, then why did the US have 1/2c? When the newly independent country was designing its own currency, the logical starting point would have been to call the smallest value item 1 whatever, and build from there. Building a decimal system with additional fractional values just doesn't make sense.
     
  10. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    That is the coolest Verdigris I’ve ever seen! Exactly in the socket of the eye.
     
  11. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    So if you were to make a purchase that cost 1 centesimos and paid with the 1-1/4 centesimos, how did the proprietor give you your 1/4 centesimos change?
     
  12. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I think the Spanish tradition of dividing money into eighths persisted after decimalization, with the decimo serving a similar role to the old real.
    So 2½ and 1¼ centavos would have been natural divisions.

    Even in the Western US, the division of dollars into eighths persisted for a long time.
    Here's Robert Louis Stevenson on it:
    "In the Pacific States they have made a bolder push for complexity, and settle their affairs by a coin that no longer exists – the bit, or old Mexican real. The supposed value of the bit is twelve and a half cents, eight to the dollar. When it comes to two bits, the quarter-dollar stands for the required amount. But how about an odd bit? The nearest coin to it is a dime, which is, short by a fifth. That, then, is called a short bit. If you have one, you lay it triumphantly down, and save two and a half cents. But if you have not, and lay down a quarter, the bar-keeper or shopman calmly tenders you a dime by way of change; and thus you have paid what is called a long bit, and lost two and a half cents, or even, by comparison with a short bit, five cents." Robert Louis Stevenson, Across the Plains, 1892.

    Panama 1 1:4 Centésimos 1940 copy.jpeg
     
  13. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    The New York Stock Exchange switched from the Spanish system of eighths to the decimal system only 20 years ago, in April 2001.
     
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  14. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    The seller says: listen, boy, take another candy!
     
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