New discovery: 2015-S Roosevelt Dime missing cameo on reverse

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Dearborn, Aug 29, 2021.

  1. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    Going through a recent purchase of domes I made through eBay, I found a dime I initially thought was damaged, but later found that it had never gotten its laser frosting on the reverse. I sent this coin off to Mike Diamond for analysis.
    He found that it was possibly a problem with the laser not working correctly. He published this coin in 'Coin Weekly' this month (or it is due to be published on Sept 9th - not sure on that).

    I am now trying to determine a value for this coin. Can anyone help?
    2015-S RD Silver Proof Frosting error.jpg 2015-S RD Silver Proof No Cameo Rev.jpg
     

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  3. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Nice find and welcome to CT. To maximise any value it would need to be officially attributed as a new discovery, or slabbed with description on the label, otherwise it is just another, albeit unusual, error. It is then worth whatever someone is prepared to pay.
     
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  4. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    Thanks.
    I am already in the process of sending it into ANACS for initial slabbing and being attributed as a new discovery.

    I usually don't submit to ANACS, but was told that they are "more error coin friendly".
    I'm a PCGS member, and may re-submit it to them if I get the grade I want later
     
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  5. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Interesting error. Someone forgot to flip the switch for the reverse laser?
     
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  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Pretty cool.
     
  7. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    Sorry, had to edit my first post, as I had posted the entire article about my coin the is to be published in Coin World. But I can post up portions of the article, which I will do now.

    From a Message I got from Mike Diamond, he said "If, as it appears, the laser frosting on the reverse die was omitted, you have a significant and valuable die variety. I could write it up for Coin World, if you'd like.

    I'm sure that most of you here know who Mr. Diamond is. (At least I hope so)

    Another message from Mike which states: "Posting the entire article undoubtedly violates copyright law, but I'm not Coin World's enforcer. I doubt they'll see it, and if they do, they may regard it as a helpful lure to attract new subscribers. "Fair use" laws allow people to summarize articles and post snippets."

    So with that out of the way, I'll post up 'snippets' of the article.

    Capture part 1.png Capture part 2.png Capture part 3-ccfopt.jpg
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What I would have to ask is did the obverse die get replaced?
    Also this coin does not look uncirculated. Neat find, I think that it should get it's proper attribution.
    What do you think @paddyman98
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  9. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    Well the coin is uncirculated, however, I did get it in a 2x2 by the seller. I'm thinking (hoping) that the seller put it from the OGP to the 2x2. But I'm thinking that the seller was not as careful as they should have been. There are no wear patterns on the obverse but slight scratches on the field (scratches that I can only see from photographs of the coin.)
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Hmm. To pop things with a laser, you've got to focus it down to a tiny spot, and to do that, you've got to know exactly how distant your target is. The depth-dependent bit makes me wonder if the die was somehow mounted not quite right during the "frosting" (or, as I think of it, "polka-dotting") process. (Have I mentioned that I'm not fond of the current laser-pockmarking approach to "frosting"?)
     
  11. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    Yeah, I was not either (at least until I found this coin) It has a tendency to wash out the details of the devices it is supposed to be enhancing..
     
  12. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Nice find.
     
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  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It's also possible the laser does more than one pass with the focus set at different depths. This would be like the reverse of the 2017 S NA dollas where the frost is applied with two passes.
     
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  15. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    Great find, and I read the article, I have it in front of me! WOW. When you get the coin back from the grading service, let us know what they say!
     
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  16. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    you bet, I already got a message from ANACS that they were working on it, I did pay the extra for an expedient return.
     
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  17. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    It just goes to show you that good finds are still possible even today.
     
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