What U.S. coins have not went up in value in this hot market?

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  1. bosco5041

    bosco5041 Member

    Seems that there are still a lot of coins that have not went up in value in this hot market. Commemoratives are one area, any others?
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    So wouldn't that make them.. A cold market?
     
  4. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    Do you mean modern commems or even the older silver commems, or both?
     
  5. Two Dogs

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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Does this not tell you that if they haven’t gone up not to buy them as no one wants them?
     
  7. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    I dunno ... I wouldn't put a lot of stock into that graphic. First, I'm not sure what that index really includes, and even if it did include the older silver commems, the way it may be aggregated doesn't give you meaningful info about that component of the index. Second, seems to me that there was an increase in overall index price since the beginning of 2021, but has levelled off. I wouldn't describe that as declining for the year, but definitely shows the overall index isn't a screaming spike.
     
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  8. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Isn't it about enjoying the hobby? If you are only focused on financial gain, perhaps buying into the S&P500 index or a multifamily apartment house should be at the top of the list.
     
  9. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Good points. I was just pointing out a category that has been relatively flat, compared to something like 1921 Peace Dollars which have gone to the moon.
     
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  10. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    @Two Dogs At this point in time, I would not want to be involved with multi
    family apartments. Few are paying rent leaving the landlord
    high and dry.
     
  11. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    How 'bout bags of wheat cents? Not much happening with these
    albatrosses. For that matter, bags of copper cents not doing much.
    Silver certs.
     
  12. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    I think the proposition that, at least, some modern silver commems have declined in value, has merit. I base that on personal experience, as I sold some (what I thought) were valuable perfect grade silver commems, a couple of which were relatively rare, and got prices well, well below the PCGS suggested retail price. Those included the full PDS set of the 1983 Olympic dollars (non-proof, but all graded MS-70), 1994-D World Cup non-proof dollar graded MS-70, and 1996-D High Jump non-proof dollar graded MS-70. I was lucky to even get close to a third of the PCGS suggested retail price for the coins overall. Lack of demand may be more specific to those being non-proof, and it seems a lot of collectors prefer the perfect grade proof versions of modern silver commems, even though the non-proof perfect coins (according to grade) are scarcer.
     
  13. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    Just browsing through the most recent edition of the Grey Sheet. Shows, in general, without regard to grade, modern silver commemorative prices have declined since the last edition. Could be a function of the decline in Silver spot price. Meanwhile, the modern gold commemorative prices, without regard to grade, overall have gone up in price since the last Grey Sheet edition.
     
  14. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Bouncing Balls, Gold & Silver. Mine are stable...
     
  15. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    Not much beats a set of stable balls, Mr. Q.
    Hope this is so for most of our members.
    J.T.
     
  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Coins that aren't going up in value? Zincolns! Still rotting away from the day they're struck.
     
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  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    not went up?
     
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  18. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    "No GONE up" I'm married to a retired English teacher. She gets a kick out of reading these entries.
     
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  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Actually 14% are behind. Search it. I have faith in my fellow Americans.
     
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  20. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP

    1918 IL Commem Combine.jpg 1937-D Oregon Trail Combined.jpg Pilgrim commem rev.JPG


    Yeah, those classic commemoratives really suck! ;) I hope the non-interest continues and keeps the values down.

    They simply aren't advertised anymore and people don't take the time to look back and appreciate them for what they are. Most even have the coveted low mintages that everybody's so worried about these days. Including the challenge of finding the premium ones without problems and great eye appeal. On top of that, they were designed and sculpted by the same people who designed our most beloved circulating coinage. Often jointly designed obverses and reverses.

    I like a good ASE reverse proof and I buy them but IMO, it makes no sense why a lot of the old and modern commems wouldn't be more collectible than ASEs.
     
  21. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP

    A few more I have stashed that I thought were amazing designs:

    2008 Bald Eagle dollar combined.jpg 2008-S Bald Eagle half combined.jpg 2008-W $5 gold Bald Eagle combined.jpg
     
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