New arrival-Pupienus antoninianus

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  1. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    I posted my new Balbinus antoninianus a month or so ago. I had to complete the Balbinus Pupienus duo, so I very recently pulled the trigger on a Pupienus antoninianus, and it just arrived! Here it is;
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    Video of the coin-

    Pupienus
    AR Antoninianus
    Rome mint, April-July of 238
    23mm, 4.05 grams
    RIC IV-II 10B

    The reverse has odd artificial toning, and I plan to slowly and very carefully remove the artificial toning on the reverse. Besides the artificial toning, I am thrilled with my new coin.

    Please share your Pupienii, wildly toned coins, artificially toned coins, or anything you'd feel appropriate sharing!

    Here are some pictures of the Balbinus Pupienus duo
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  3. Rich Buck

    Rich Buck Yukon Cornelius

    Wow.
     
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  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Man, that coin is wicked! Huge flan too, with full beading. Gorgeous.

    My artificially toned coin here:
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  5. Campbell Miller

    Campbell Miller Well-Known Member

    That is a truly beautiful coin with a wonderful portrait! I don't have any Pupienus coins, but I do have a Balbinus denarius.
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  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..fantastic !! :)
     
  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    awesome coin, congrats roman99
    similar toning:

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  8. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice one with a great portrait.
    For a long time I've had a pair of antoniniani of the two "fellow emperors", but parted with them in favor of a pair of denarii

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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice coin, @roman99

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  10. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    That's an absolutely fantastic coin, @Alegandron!

    My examples of the dynamic duo are both denarii rather than antoninianii, both with the same reverse:

    Pupienus, AR Denarius, April-June 238 AD, Rome Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, IMP C M CLOD PVPIENVS AVG / Rev. Bearded Genius of the Senate, togate, standing front, head left, holding olive branch in extended right hand, and short transverse scepter in left hand, PM TRP COS II PP. RIC IV-2 5, RSC III 29 (ill.), Sear RCV III 8528 (ill.). 20 mm., 3.42 g. (Purchased from Herakles Numismatics, Dec. 2020.)

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    Balbinus AR Denarius, April-June 238 AD, Rome mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, IMP C D CAEL BALBINVS AVG / Rev. Bearded Genius of the Senate, togate, standing front, head left, holding olive branch in extended right hand, and short transverse scepter in left hand, PM TRP COS II PP. RIC IV-2 5, RSC III 20, Sear RCV III 8489 (ill.). 20 mm., 2.65 g. (Purchased from Kirk Davis April 2020; ex: Kirk Davis, Cat # 74, Fall 2019, Lot 83).

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    *[Applicable to both the Balbinus and the Pupienus denarii.] The standing figure on the reverse of each coin was traditionally believed to be the respective Emperor himself, holding a parazonium (a short triangular sword typically found on coins depicting Virtus) in his left hand. That view is still reflected in OCRE (based on RIC) and at the British Museum website (based on BMCRE), as well as in the descriptions of all 14 coins of this type I found that have been sold since 2003, listed on acsearch. However, as @curtislclay explained at https://www.cointalk.com/threads/balbinus-denarius.358987/#post-4410967, in discussing a Balbinus example, the reverse “shows not the emperor on the reverse, but the Genius of the Senate, so his attribute has to be a short scepter, not a sword! A pity that the [British Museum] website perpetuates this old error (Genius misdescribed as emperor). The correction was made by [Andreas] Alföldi in his Insignien und Tracht [der römischen Kaiser (Deutsches Archäologisches Institut, 1935)] . . ., followed by many others since then, including a recent article by R. Ziegler. On coins of Antoninus Pius, for example, the same togate figure is labeled GENIO SENATVS. His beard and bushy hairstyle on [the Balbinus] coin are exactly as required for the Genius, and exclude Balbinus. No surprise that the Genius of the Senate reappears on the coins of Balbinus and Pupienus, since they were senators themselves and were chosen to be emperors by the Senate.” Note that Sear equivocates, describing the reverse figure on both coins as either the Emperor or “the Genius of the Senate.” See Sear RCV III 8489 & 8528 (published in 2005).
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you very much for the kind comment.
     
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  12. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    My coin from the same time period. Gordian III as Caesar c. April-June A.D. 238. Reverse: jug between lituus and knife on l., simpulum and sprinkler on r. Some very interesting strike issues on the eye and chin. But overall a pleasant piece and one I always wanted.
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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

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  14. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I think you meant, @rooman9!
     
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Don't have the dude in silver, here is a bronze sestertius celebrating (presumably) his victory over Maximinus Thrax at Aquileia.

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  16. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Pupienus Ar Denarius Rome 238 AD Obv, Bust right laureate draped and cuirassed. Rv Pax seated left RIC 4. 3.11 grms 18 mm Photo by W. Hansen pupienus3.jpg I always though that he had a very distinguished portrait which harkens back to that of Marcus Aurelius.
     
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