Toning on coin in blue velvet box

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Mountain Man, Aug 23, 2021.

  1. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Wow. What a surprise. I dug some coins out of the back of my safe, that I haven't looked at in ages. I was shocked by the toning on this. I believe the toning was caused by the "silk" lining, or whatever material it is, as the reverse, which is in direct contact with the blue, has no toning at all. The box itself is cardboard so it may be the culprit and chemicals bled through the material lining.
    The toning is much darker in-hand and quite ugly to me, but it is what it is.
    Anyone else experience this type of toning?
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I have the same problem with my proof coins in the sets.The obverse was of course facing the front so it took all the reacting material on only that side.But it could also be an enviormental issue to add on.
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That "silk lining" looks stained. I wonder if the whole thing got wet. I'm a bit surprised the reverse is untouched, but I can believe it -- it would've been somewhat protected, and the obverse might actually have gotten condensation on it. Condensation plus gases from fabric or paper -> bad toning.
     
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  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I have seen this, but honestly I believe it toned due to air exposure and not the blue box. I say this since I have seen the same in all forms of packaging, and the one constant is the one where air didn't tough it was white, and the one with air is toned.
     
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  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    slap it in a slab, call it a "MONSTER TONER" and watch the bidiots on eBay file on in.
     
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  7. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Here's a coin of mine that has similar toning,was in the original packaging although the reverse toned rather than the obverse. 20210823_151938.jpg 20210823_151954.jpg
     
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  8. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    It's the photo, as the lining is pristine.
     
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  9. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Do you store any ammunition in that safe?
     
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  10. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    That is rather dramatic.
     
  11. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    Not really I used to purposely keep Morgan's with my Primer reloads that made awesome rainbow's?
     
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  12. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I ruined an MS64 type one SLQ that was in a safe with my firearms. Before I joined CT, I didn’t know any better. That quarter turned black. It was hideous… And I am a blast white guy.
     
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It toning that way - obv toned rev not - makes perfect sense if you think about it, and it's quite common in original packaging like that and or coin albums. Toning is primarily caused by the coin being exposed to gasses, not by direct contact. So the exposed side of the coin will typically show toning and or more toning than the hidden, and somewhat protected, side of the coin does.

    Think of it in terms of air flow. The exposed side of the coin has a lot more air flowing around it than the hidden side does. It really is just that simple.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A nice natural toning. I like it but toned coins really aren’t my thing. You can always give her a quick tip and a through rinse. :)
     
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  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    No. All ammo is kept in "dry" containers in my underground bunker.
     
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  16. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Hum. Has me wondering what would happen if I carried a silver coin in my rear pocket for a few days. LOL
     
  17. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Does your new outfit have a rear pocket?
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmmm - lemme put it this way - I don't think it would either side would be hidden enough :D
     
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  19. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    The moisture from your bottom would certainly do the trick Mountain Man, A little humor, very little...
     
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  20. LDRider

    LDRider Member

    I'll do a search, but for now - enlighten me. Thanks!
     
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  21. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    The cleaning chemicals used for firearms are designed to break down copper. When you close up cleaned firearms with coins, the out gassing from the cleaning chemicals attacks the copper in our coins.
     
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