PCGS sub has arrived - Guess the Grade (Part 5 of 5)

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    And we round out the sub with part 5 of 5. Please guess the original grade and the new grade (originally NGC and now PCGS).

    Are they the same or different?

    Here I am including two photos (first the NGC photo from the seller and then the PCGS TrueView).

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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    MS64 changed to MS65+
     
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    MS -63 to MS-64 ! :happy:
     
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  5. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    64 & 64
     
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  6. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    MS63 to MS 64 (1st set of photos more clearly show bag marks on cheek and obverse fields), ergo MS 63 initially. Graders have to love the toning/color, so my guess is that when they graded it again, they said "Give it a 64" for maxing coloration and eye appeal grading element, notwithstanding the bag marks.
     
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  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Questionable color, MS details to 63. Went from details to straight grade change. It looks like a 63 to me. I would not be surprised if it was not detailed originally, as I have seen many Morgans with ring toning considered questionable. To me, it looks NT, but my bet was that NGC saw it as QT.
     
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  8. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coin, btw, ddddd. Regardless of what PCGS did, that coin is a keeper.
     
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    64 on both
     
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  10. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    NGC: UNC Details - quest. color
    PCGS: MS64
     
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  11. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    63* to 63.

    I am guessing you wanted 64 from PCGS and they kept it at 63 because of the muted luster.
     
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  12. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Originally Details - QT, now MS 64+
     
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  13. RogerC

    RogerC Well-Known Member

    64 to 65
     
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  14. Cliff Reuter

    Cliff Reuter Well-Known Member

    MS64 to MS64
     
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  15. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I'll go with 63 to 64. The TrueView photos don't show all of the contact marks that the other images show. I find this a bit concerning since it definitely makes the coin look better. That said, the TrueView images seem to bring out the beautiful toning better.
     
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  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    That has been one of my gripes with TrueViews for a while now. For reference, see these threads from 2018:

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/guess-the-grade-on-this-colorful-morgan.322361/

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/head-to-head-gtg-who-will-be-the-victor.322362/
     
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  17. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    All Morgan's are keepers. 64, 65, could be just the opposite because of the line across the date on the second set. Great post, can't wait to see the result. Thanks
     
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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    MS63 to a 64.
     
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  19. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I think PCGS knocked it up a point. They like toning like this, and while I'm not a big fan of toned coins, that one appeals to me.
     
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  20. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    63-63
     
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  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    This was a pleasant surprise and the biggest win on the PCGS sub. It upgraded from NGC MS 64 (no star) to PCGS MS 65. I think the technical grade is a 64 and was not expecting an upgrade to 65 (part 1 of 5 is where I expected the upgrade from 64 to 65). The reason for submitting it was to get it into a PCGS holder with a TrueView as that would increase the market value (the no star NGC holder would have held back the potential value). For now this is a coin that will stay in my collection (unless something better comes along to unseat it).

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