1971 Washington quarter missing clad on both sides

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by SavageBud, Aug 17, 2021.

  1. SavageBud

    SavageBud New Member

    Hello everyone I was just going to inquire about this quarter I found at an estate sale it is a 1971 Washington quarter and it appears to have zero clad on either side it is very thin and it only weighs 2.47 g is it possible that this is a quarter missing clad on both sides? Or is it just a quarter struck on a penny planchet? It is much bigger than a penny it is the size of a quarter except for the thickness which is about the thickness of a dime maybe a little less input would be much appreciated thanks in advance.
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No..

    That quarter has environmental toning Damage to both sides.
    Prolonged exposure to the elements, soil, dirt, clay, water and the weather will darken the Cupro-Nickel clad layer.. The copper mixed with the nickel tones and darkens.

    Here are many examples of my metal detected finds.. It occurs on Nickels also
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No..
    If that were the case it would be the same size, weight and thickness of a cent planchet.
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Missing clad layer usually involves only one side of a clad coin.
    Here are examples from my collection.
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    The other side of the coins look normal.
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Or it can be a quarter where the clad was stripped off post mint (chemical corrosion) and the copper core was exposed o_O
    Still not a mint error
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Sure can Mr. P. and for @Cheech9712, here it is again for your viewing pleasure.

    I found this coin in a $100 Mixed P&D bag that the Mint released in 2004, and it is one of only two known to exist for this date/mintmark. It's cost to me was 68c, and I can almost guarantee that nobody will ever find one that looks this bright while searching circulated coins.

    2001-D 50c REV Slab.jpg
     
  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    It looks like it was soaked in acid. I made a few of these in the college Chem lab back in the day. Took the clad off but kept most of the detail. Nitric acid can be nasty.
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You have a quarter that has been damaged by the environment. Not an error and not missing the clad layer.
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Acid removed and cladding and then proportionally removed the interior until it reached the size and weight. The design also is reduced similarly and stays fairly sharp. IMO, Jim
     
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  12. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    @SavageBud, having been a member here for over a year, I'm surprised you haven't read many of the posts on this, and recent ones too.
    None the less, I hope you continue looking at your coins and asking questions when you can't find an answer for yourself. Good luck.
     
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  13. SavageBud

    SavageBud New Member

    The coin weighs 2.5 g it is super thin I'm pretty sure no one ever soaked it in acid I guess I'm going to send it off to PCGS paddyman98 it is definitely missing the clad layer on both sides it is not a coin that was found with a metal detector in the ground this was found in a jewelry box at an estate sale
     
  14. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    :):)Go right ahead with your happy self please do show us the results some have to learn the hard way.
     
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  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Savagebud, why do you think it couldn't have been reduced in size ( and loss of surface if it was in a jewelry box at at an estate sale? Really, it is done often and the product sold on Etsy and other media where people have little knowledge of coin production processes. It will be less expensive to find a dealer to send it in, as otherwise the fees are somewhat high if only 1 coin by a non PCGS member. Good luck, Jim
     
  16. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Savagebud, I'd like to save you about $80

    Take a $10 bill, flush it down the toilet, then
    imagine doing it again 7 more times.

    It will not be certified as anything other than a
    'damaged surfaces' coin at PCGS, NGC, ANACS,
    or your local garden.
     
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  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Hey, if you want to ignore the opinions of other people who have hundreds of years of combined experience collecting errors and choose to waste your money by sending it in, who am I to stop you!

    If you do, I can almost surely foresee that you will never come back here and tell us the results when you find out that you were wrong.
     
  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Reminds me of a 70d quarter my grand baby has. Think it was done on dime stock.
     
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Think @paddyman98 has a 70d. Maybe he can confirm it’s weight. I never weighed mine. Curious
     
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  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    How does the diameter compare to a normal quarter? Exactly the same size or slightly smaller? I'm betting on smaller.

    If it was missing both clad layers it would weigh 3.85 grams and be the same diameter as a normal quarter. If the coin has been soaked in acid the weight could be less and the diameter will be less than a normal quarter.
     
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