Two Greek, two Roman for help please

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  1. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Can anyone please advise on these?
    Coin A - I can see Philippus but can't tie it to a coin in Sear or Wildwinds, and I suspect it may be a fake. 27mm diameter:
    Philip 1-side.JPG

    Coin B - looks like it might be Trajan but provincial Greek mintage. Where and is it right? 23mm diameter:
    Trajan 1-side.JPG

    Coin C - Greek with the Owl reverse, but which city and again is it right? 23mm diameter:
    Owl 1-side.JPG

    Coin D - appears Greek but with a counterstamp - possibly a ship? Any ideas? 16mm diameter:
    Greek counterstamp 1-side.JPG

    Thanks for any assistance.
     
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  3. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Last one, looks like Seleukos II.
     
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  4. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

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  5. dougsmit

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  6. Ignoramus Maximus

    Ignoramus Maximus Nomen non est omen.

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  7. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    For anyone interested in really obscure ancient history, Moesia was located next to Larrysia and Curlysia.

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  8. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Last one looks to be a bronze of Seleukos II. I think it's SC 657(1).
     
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  9. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Agree with Doug that Coin C is fake. The others look legit to me. Agree that Coin A is from Viminacium, Moesia; Philip, Year 5, honours the legionary veterans that settled there (depicted by the bull and lion on either side of the standing figure).
     
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  10. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Yes!!!!...:D...& coin C looks like Bob Hope & that owl from the "glasses" commercial!...:joyful:;)
     
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  11. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    That is great - thanks all!

    I feared the Athens coin would be a fake - too famous a design for the fakers to miss. Glad to hear the rest have at least the potential to be right.

    The Moesia slightly lost on us Europeans - I assume Moe, Larry and Curly were some comedy team? Nice link though!
     
  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yep! The Three Stooges!

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  13. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Glad we got that straightened out.

    The wealth of knowledge in this forum is amazing.
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Philip I from Viminacium is real. I’ve never seen a fake one, but I’m sure they’re around
     
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  15. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Coin D as suggested above is possibly Seleukas II. Seleucid coins were often countermarked, often with anchors.

    Here is one of mine with two countermarks, but neither like yours:
    CM - Seleukos II cm Anchor & Caduceus Jun 2021 (0a).jpg
    Seleucid Kingdom Æ 15
    Seleukos II Kallinikos
    n.d. (246-226 B.C.)

    Head of Herakles right, wearing lionskin / BA[ΣIΛEΩΣ] [ΣEΛ]EYKO[Y], Apollo, naked, seated left on omphalos, holding arrow & bow [monogram left?].
    SC 657 type.
    (3.68 grams / 15 mm)
    eBay June 2021
    Countermarks:
    Countermark 1: Seleucid anchor in 5 x 4 mm rectangle
    Countermark 2: Caduceus in 6 x 5 mm rectangle both on reverse, obliterating most of Apollo.
    Identical countermarks: CNG E Auction 200, Lot 71, 3 December 2008.

    Here is an anchor countermark in a circle that looks a lot like the OP. It may be Seleucid too, but the host coin is from Thrace:

    CM - Lysimachos w Anchor Jun 2019 (0xx0a).jpg
    Kingdom of Thrace Æ 15
    Lysimachos
    (323-281 B.C.)

    Head of Herakles right in lion skin headdress / ΒΑ[ΣΙ] ΛΥΣ[Ι] in wreath of grain ears.
    SNG Cop. 1168-1169; HGC 3.2, 1761; Sear SG 6822.
    Countermark: Seleucid (?) anchor obverse in 6 mm circle.
    (2.51 grams / 15 mm)
    eBay June 2019
     
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  16. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Piling on, Phillip is a Viminacium sestertius. Note that latin was used for the legend rather than Greek, indicating a Roman colony.
     
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  17. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    On coin D, Wildwinds has one very similar with a countermark described as a Lyre, which seems possible to me. SC 657 as suggested by @rooman9 above.
     
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  18. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

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  19. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Awesome website, never seen it before.
    I have quite a few Vim "sestertii," including a Philip like the OP.
    Philip I AMNG 100.JPG
     
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  20. Keith Twitchell

    Keith Twitchell Active Member

    If you are not familiar with it, another great tool for identifying coins is AC search, www.acsearch.com.
     
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  21. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Are there some good instructions anywhere? I've never been successful in finding anything on acsearch, though there are so many here who are experts. I just don't get it.
     
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