1920 German War Token - Preserving?

Well, with rust I believe its best to AT LEAST nutralize the active rust. Not doing this would be about the same as letting Bronze Disease eat away a bronze coin. You will not have a thread on this forum about preserving / cleaning coins without someone coming in and giving the invaluable advice: 'cleaning coins is bad'.

Its not open to debate to them so to try to is futile.

 

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May very well have been me, yes. After all, according to that legend the beast is a bear. The Aachen pieces I bought because of the interesting designs, because the city where I live did not issue any notgeld coins (just paper), and also because Aachen is a nice city and not far from here.

Yep, that's it. This one I wanted to have because I have personally seen the guy's tongue and eyes ...

Your piece from Boldixum I find interesting because, as most porcelain "coins", it was made in/by Meissen, and also because the town is a small place on a fairly small island. Since 1924 Boldixum has been part of the city of Wyk, and the entire city has a population of a whopping 4,500 or so ...

Christian

 

Great coins Drusus! wish I had some and I will be keeping an eye out!! :thumb: Especially that dude on the clock!! :kewl:

 

Fret, these coins are, on average, rather inexpensive so it shouldnt break the bank to pick some up here and there when you come across one that catches your eye.


When I read the history of that island, I found it interesting that it wasnt always an island, it was a part of a marshly mainland until, I guess, the water rose during storms and surges in 1363 and permenantly cut this land mass off from the mainland so it became an island chain. They made it seem like it happen over night but another source made it seem like it was a series of flooding over time that caused this.

One of the write-ups (writen by a person from Boldixum) made it seem like Boldixum was the major center of the island and that Wyk was just a cluster of fishing huts until they officially founded Wyk in 1819 with an eye to tourism and to make it a beach resort. The town took off quickly, then swallowed up Boldixum by 1924. I am thinking this coin was probably minted while it was still a village. I base this only on the idea that after it was incorprated into Wyk it probably wouldnt have created its own 'money' but certainly this might not be the case as. It seems, some in Boldixum still think its the true 'heart' of Föhr.

 

Here's the only one I have and it may need to be cleaned at some point but for my purposes it's avoidable. I just checked out ebay and although they are cheap as far as coins go, there weren't any like yours except the dog. :thumb:

Is mine a notgeld or a Kreisgeld? anyone? danke

 

That seems to be one of the more common types as I see huge amounts of this type from coblenz. Everytime I find a guy selling notgeld coins they always have multiple examples of this particular coin. It is Kriegsgeld (War Money) and its dated for the last year of WWI.

From what I have always read...it could also be generally classified as Notgeld (Emergency Money) because it is money minted in a time of emergency. It reads something like ' Valid until 1 year after peace treaty'

 

good deal! Yeah the flip said Notgeld and I just noticed the coin says Kreigsgeld right on it. Glad to learn there's a little difference. :thumb:

 

A freaky coin printed in a real strange episode, the german chaos inbetween WW1 and WW2. There was market fluctuations as one day the loaf of bread cost you nothing, and the other it cost you a months salary. This coin is one of the most interesting i have ever seen.

An echo from a forgotten reality and time. This history is drowned in the propaganda leftovers of the second world war. None really knows how and why it all started, and why the second did come, unless you are well read.

Such a beauty this coin

 

Yes, the transition from "war money" (that was issued simply because there was not enough small change) to notgeld and inflation money in Germany was not abrupt but gradual: One US dollar was about 4 marks before WW1, about 8 M at the end of the war (Nov-1918) , and about 100 M in Feb-1920. After that it got worse even faster, with the peak in late November 1923 when 1 dollar was more than 4 trillion marks. In late 1923/early 1924 that inflation period was over.

Christian

 

Here are some bills minted during that climax time period. Its seems at a certain point inflation was so rapid that they began to amend bills that had been printed but had not been in circulation yet thus the inflation had made the bill too low to be useful in the time after printing but before circulation:

 

What a very informative thread! Thanks to all!:thumb:

Drusus, I have that Stadt Duren also. Although mine is in much worse shape. I have a question for you: Mine doesn't have the SD on the obverse. Did they make some without it, or did mine rust off?

I will post a picture as soon as I can figure out how! Newbie!

 

Here it is:



IT actually looks a little better in hand. Some of the smaller rust pits don't stand out so much! To me it looks more like it never had the SD as opposed to it rusted off. But....?

Even with it's obvious faults, it's still one of my favorite coins in my collection. Although, I wish it looked a little more like Drusus's!

 

That is certainly rough for wear. Its a shame when they fall victim to rust. I guess the more that rust away makes mine just a little bit more rare.

They did make two varieties, one with and one without the SD. This is one in a seriel of what I feel to be very striking coins minted by Duren:


Miner bust type


Pilot


Walking Miner

earlier and more plain 1917 issue:



There are a few others. The soldier was the first one I bought and got me started in that type of coin. Has no idea what it was, looked into and was hooked.

 

Yep, I'm hooked too. Especially after seeing your other Stadt Duren. First things first...get mine in some WD-40 to save what is left. I know it has next to no monetary value, but it has value to me

Where did you get yours? E-bay? I found mine in a 5 for a dollar foreign grab-bin. (it shows!) I sure would like to find some better specimens, though. I'm off to the 'Bay!:goofer:

 

It looks to me like there WILL be pitting and discoloration but at least in my opinion, its better than it rusting away. I buy here and there on eBay if a dealer on my list has one I find interesting, there are a few sellers that sell notgeld there and on places like MA shops and there are some sold here and there on vcoins.com.

 

Oh yes...a lot of pitting! lol

Thanks for the vcoin link. I hadn't run across that one yet.

 

I just went to e-bay and found this:



They only had one picture. But, it was a "buy-it-now" for only $4.50 US, including shipping. And the seller had 9900 feedbacks and a 100% rating, so I jumped at it.

I looked a little on the net to try and find it, but had no luck. Does anyone know what the other side of this coin looks like?

Thanks!

 

The other side is the same. Like the last one I posted above, it has the same image on the reverse as it does the obverse. I think its the lowest denomination coin Duren minted. that one looks rather nice as well....at least one the one side showing

 

After a soaking week in Break Free (something like WD40), I think the thing looks worse!

I may have to break out Drusus' brushes!

 

Did you use a rust remover? It will most likely require scrubbing with a soft brush.