Is there any way to submit a coin to RIC online?

Hi all! I was just wondering if it were possible to submit a new coin type to RIC online (OCRE), so that it can be included in future editions. There is a button "Contributors" at the top of the page, but it doesn't do anything when I click it.

I've also tried submitting a new specimen on ric.mom.fr, but have had no luck there either.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks!

 

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Who is RIC?

 

Just curious: are you an ancient coin collector?

 

https://ric.mom.fr/en/feedback/cointype

Do I understand correctly that you submitted the form above and it did not work?

 

Ah, sorry for my poor wording. I've tried to submit a new coin type on RIC, but a new coin example (of an existing type where there is only 1 available) on ric.mom (so the bottom right button on the screen e.g. here)

 

Who's Ric's mom?

Could this what the OP is looking for?

https://ric.mom.fr/en/feedback/cointype

...under "Feeback/Submit a New Coin Type".

 

It seems not, lol.

Not Ric Flair but Roman Imperial Coins.

 

OK so clicking on that brings up the following and that does not work?
https://ric.mom.fr/en/feedback/coinspecimen?idType=855

 

Yeah, I've tried that. Filled in the form, submitted it, but no response

 

More seriously, the one drawback I see to OCRE is that its coverage appears to be limited to the published volumes of RIC, regardless of how many new types have been discovered since those volumes were published -- some of them a very long time ago. After all, how many new Probus types have turned up since the relevant volume was published: hundreds? This drawback makes the "Online Coins of the Roman Empire" name a bit misleading. MER-RIC is obviously a great resource, but it's very limited itself in terms of its time-period, and has to be supplemented piecemeal with various resources like the Probus websites and others.

 

OCRE is not RIC. However, it does utilize RIC's numbering system.

 

The text and format and photos are very different, but it's supposed to encompass the coins listed in RIC, and it's arranged by RIC numbers.

 

What is the usual time lapse between submission and the change appearing? Is there a review of the submission before adoption?
I ask because, I too, submitted changes and a picture of a Tacitus coin two weeks ago or so and the changes and picture still have not appeared.

 

True, but it isn't RIC, which is published by Spink. OCRE is an ANS project.

 

That leads me back to my earlier comment: why did the ANS limit OCRE's coverage to the coins listed in RIC, and make no attempt whatsoever to include any of the great many coin types discovered since the RIC volumes were published?

 

I'm not involved with OCRE or CRRO but as an outsider who has looked into the tech used a bit and knows a few of the people working on these databases, I can provide at least a partial answer. First and foremost, these projects are based on specific reference works, not just for organization, but also because the way that OCRE or CRRO show you all the coins for a given type in the BnF, BM, ANS, etc is through the use of linked IDs, so if you want to look at RRC 287/1 then all those institutions must catalog their examples as "RRC 287/1" for them all to show up on the page. So types in the publication are relatively "easy"(though still a lot of work), but it takes a lot more coordination to add the necessary data for the system to reflect coin types not included in whatever the main publication is that is used for that database and have the examples actually appear from other museums.

It would not surprise me if, at some point, an effort is made to add some of the many types published or rehabilitated since the publication of these various works, but I know at the moment a lot of their resources are tied up on other projects such as further integration of RRDP into CRRO.

 

The ric.mom.fr site seems to be on an indefinite hiatus... no changes have been uploaded in many months.

 

nope

 

Projects like OCRE are huge undertakings even in the best of times and these last two years most certainly have not been the best. I do not know the particulars on this but I would not expect a two week turn around under normal circumstances. Do I wish there were an OCRE type project covering the coins of greatest interest to me? You bet! Am I willing to devote the rest of my life to making that happen. Nope. I appreciate what we have and the fact that they posted it as a work in progress rather than piling it up in a corner awaiting publication of a hard cover book. You say they are using RIC organization? Maybe but the number to use when referencing it is called 'Temp'. Will the project ever reach completion? Probably not in the lifetimes of the current workers. I'm not sure any worthwhile project ever reaches completion. There is a major difference between 'where we stopped' and 'where there was no more to be learned'.

 

Enjoyed the story line. Great knowledgeable answers Donna, thanks for the lesson!