Denarius pair of Caracalla and Geta- "Providence of the Gods"

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Yes: It is an enigma coin.

    The obverse is VICTORY (see the wings), and had been attributed as a living portrait of FULVIA.

    Very pertinent to this thread.
     
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  3. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Some great examples, thanks everyone for sharing! (And sorry I'm a little late responding to this thread).

    I love that reverse...I need one of those!

    @Curtisimo , that big bronze from Galatia is a stunner! Beautiful coin!

    @Marsyas Mike That's a very nice group of Providentia reverses, thanks for sharing.

    @John Conduitt , that's a great set of Victoriae Brit! I especially like the detail on the Geta reverse.

    @ambr0zie , I really like the stag on that provincial bronze.

    @Andres2 , great detail on that Minerva reverse, especially on the shield.
     
  4. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Yes, great point, I agree. I think that part of what makes the two of them so interesting is that their story really does read like a movie script, but so much about their relationship is lost to history. I always find it a little surprising that there aren't any awful stories about Geta that have survived (even if completely false and made up by Caracalla supporters). On some level, I wonder if Caracalla's damnatio memoriae may have actually benefited Geta's reputation in history in the long run. With so much of Geta's story erased from history, he ends up being reduced to the role of "the Victim." This obviously makes him much more sympathetic, because nobody likes to blame "the victim." In reality, Geta may have been just as bad as his brother, and probably played a big role in his own fate.

    The only other Providentia Deorum reverse in my collection is this denarius of Lucius Verus (which I've shared many times). Unlike Caracalla and Geta, Lucius was apparently able to put his ego aside, accept his role, and work well with his co-emperor. Had Geta been more like Lucius, things may have worked out differently for him (or maybe not, we'll never know).

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    Lucius Verus, AR Denarius (17 mm, 3.08 g), Rome, 161-162. Bareheaded bust of Lucius Verus to r./Rev. Providentia standing front, holding globe in her r. hand and cornucopia with her l. RIC 482 (Marcus Aurelius).
     
  5. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    @Shea19, a great furrowed brow Caracalla and the Markianopolis face-off coin is priceless in my view. Here's a favorite Geta from Nicean games of Severus celebrating the royal family if not more specifically the elevation of Caracalla and Geta to Augustus and Caesar.
    Geta Bythinia Nikae.jpg
    Geta, as Caesar, Nicaea, Bithynia, AD 198-209
    Obv: [ΓЄTAC] KAICAP, bare-headed bust right
    Rev: NIKAIЄΩN, prize crown containing single palm branch
    Size: 17mm., 2.55g
    Ref:AsiaMinorCoins 11899; missing from RPC online?
    Notes: more on this coin here

    and a pair of coins from Caracalla - to add to the entertaining movie script from @dougsmit :
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    Caracalla as Caesar, AD 196-198, AR denarius, Rome mint, struck AD 196-198
    Obv: M AVR ANTON-CAES PONTIF, bare headed, draped bust of Caracalla right, seen from behind
    Rev: [DESTINATO IMPERAT], priestly implements: lituus, apex, bucranium, simpulum
    Ref: RIC IV 6

    Caracalla as Caesar, AD 196-198, AR denarius, Rome mint, struck AD 196
    Obv: M AVR ANTONINVS CAES, bareheaded, draped, and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: SEVERI AVG PII FIL, Priestly implements: lituus, cultellus, capis, simpulum, and aspergillum
    Ref: RIC IV 4
     
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