VICTORIA is running

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Surprised nobody's posted this one. Though to be fair, it is probably the rarest of the Constantius II AE3s and 4s.
    Constantius II Heraclea.JPG
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Oh man, going back through the list and it looks like we forgot everyone's favorite nut-job, Commodus!
    Commodus, Denarius, Victory.png

    Commodus
    AR Denarius
    183 AD
    Obverse: M COMMODVS ANTON AVG PIVS, laureate head right
    Reverse: TR P VIII IMP VI COS IIII P P, Victory standing right, naked to waist, writing on shield set on palm

    EDIT: awww nevermind...I see that @maridvnvm got him :(
     
  4. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    All been covered - but can never have enough Victory.

    Probus:
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    Theodosius:
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    Constantius I:
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    Trajan:
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    Valerian:
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    Constantine I:
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    Licinius:
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  5. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I think this is the list of those we're still missing (after Nero):

    Otho
    Vespasian
    Domitian
    Nerva
    (Aelius)
    Antoninus Pius
    Pertinax
    Didius Julianus
    Geta
    Macrinus (& Diadumenian)
    (Maximus)
    Balbinus & Pupienus
    Philip & family
    Decius & family
    Valerian & some family (Valerian II, Saloninus)
    Macrianus & Quietus
    Postumus
    Tetricus I
    Florianus
    Numerian
    Carausius & Allectus
    Galerius
    Severus II
    Maximinus II
    Delmatius & Hannibalianus
    Constantine II
    Vetranio
    Constantius Gallus
    Julian II
    Magnus Maximus (& Flavius Victor)
    Valentinian III
    Marcian
    Zeno

    Here's Theodosius II:
    vict theo ii.jpg
     
  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I think that about taps me out then, unfortunately. I have a Postumus but no picture right now since I am re-doing all of them.
    Looking forward to seeing everyone else's coins.
    That'd be pretty amazing if we could get them all.
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  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    What an impressive lot of Victories.

    The list wipes out my Roman imperials, so I am going to cheat with some Roman Republicans. My RR collection is pretty small, but I was surprised how often Victory showed up, usually driving a chariot, but sometimes as an obverse bust, standing, flying, etc.:

    RR - Anonymous - 156 BC Victory in Biga Dec 2017 (2gg).jpg
    Roman
    Republic Denarius
    Anonymous Issue
    (157-156 B.C.) - Rome Mint

    Helmeted head of Roma right; X (mark of value) behind / Victory driving galloping biga right, holding reins and goad.
    Crawford 197/1a; Syd. 376; RSC Early Republic 6; Sear 76
    (3.43 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay Dec. 2017

    RR - Cipia Roma & Vctory Biga Nov 2020 (0a).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    M. Cipius
    (115-114 B.C.)
    Rome Mint

    Helmeted head of Roma right; [M. CIPI. M. F.] before, X behind / Victory in biga right with palm-branch, rudder below, [ROMA in exergue]
    Crawford 289/1; Cipia 1;
    (3.63 grams / 15 mm)
    Notes:
    "This moneyer has been identified with a certain Cipius, who was called the "snorer" because he pretended to be asleep in order to facilitate his wife's acts of
    adultery" https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/cipia-silver-denarius-victory-palm-167603400

    RR - Maianius Jun 2019 (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    C. Maianius
    (153 B.C.)
    Rome Mint

    Helmeted head of Roma right, X behind / Victory in biga right, C MAIANI below, ROMA in exergue.
    Maiania 1; Crawford 203/1a; Sydenham 427.
    (3.71 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay June 2017

    RR - Julia 5 den 2017 (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    L. Julius Bursio
    (85 B.C.)
    Rome Mint

    Head of Genius or Apollo Vejovis right, trident over shoulder, control-mark behind /
    Victory in quadriga right [L IVLI BVRSIO] in exergue, [control mark].
    Crawford 352/1c; Julia 5.
    (3.13 grams / 21 mm)
    eBay Feb. 2017

    RR - Junia denarius June 2017 (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    D. Junius L. f. Silanus
    (90 B.C.)
    Rome Mint

    Mask of bearded Silenus right, plough right, all within torque / Victory in biga right, with whip and palm, carnyx beneath, [D SILANVS L F] in exergue.
    Crawford 337/1a; Junia 19.
    (3.63 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay June 2017

    RR - Porcia denarius Sep. 2013 (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    M. Porcius Laeca
    (125 B.C.)
    Rome Mint

    Helmeted head of Roma right, LAECA behind, X below chin / Libertas in quadriga, crowned by Victory, M POR ROMA below.
    Crawford 270/1; Sydenham 513; Porcia 3.
    (3.83 grams / 19 mm)
    eBay Sep. 2013
    Seaby notes "This moneyer was a descendant of P. Porcius Laeca, praetor in 195 BC, who proposed and carried the Lex Porcia de Provocatione. This granted Roman citizens outside the city right of appeal in criminal matters…(this) is commemorated by the reverse type." (http://www.beastcoins.com)

    RR - Claudia denarius Dec 2013 (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    Appius Claudius Pulcher, T. Manlius Mancinus, Q. Urbinus
    (111-110 B.C.)
    Rome Mint

    Helmeted head of Roma right, / Victory in triga right, AP CL T MANL Q VR in exergue.
    Crawford 299/1a; Sydenham 570; Claudia 2.
    (3.85 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay Dec. 2013

    RR - Valeria denarius Mar 2017 (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    L. Valerius Flaccus
    (108-109 B.C.)
    Rome Mint

    Draped bust of Victory right, [star under chin] / [L VAL]ERI [FLACCI] Mars walking left, with trophy; flamen Martialis cap before and grain-ear behind.
    Crawford 306/1; Sydenham 565;Valeria 11.
    (3.37 grams / 18 mm)
    eBay Mar. 2017

    RR - Egnatulia quinarius 2017 (0).jpg
    Roman Rep. Quinarius
    C. Egnatuleius C.f.
    (97 B.C.) - Rome mint

    C·EGNATVLEI·C·F·Q, laureate head of Apollo right / Victory standing left inscribing shield set on trophy, in left field, carnyx, Q, ROMV in exergue,
    Egnatuleia 1; Crawford 333/1.
    (1.59 grams / 17 X 15 mm)
    eBay Dec. 2017

    RR - Vettia quinarius AZ Jul 1989 (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Quinarius
    Publius Vettius Sabinus
    (99 B.C.)

    Laureate head of Jupiter right control letter left (X) / Victory r. crowning trophy
    P•SABIN between, control letter (X?) right, Q in exergue
    Crawford 331/1; Vettia 1; Sydenham 587
    (1.77 grams / 15 mm)
    AZ July 1989
     
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I really like the Republic denarii with Victory riding the chariot. I don't have one yet.
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VERINA - VICTORY

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    Ex: Warren Esty @Valentinian
    Extremely rare AE2 of Verina,
    wife of Leo I, 457-475
    According to ERIC II, the 167th most common Roman person on coins. That's rare!
    20 mm. Corroded.
    This is the only AE type for her.
    AEL VERINA AVG
    SALVS REPVBLICAE,
    Victory seated right,
    inscribing chi-rho on shield.
    CONE in exergue
    RIC X, 656, "R3" (extremely rare) possibly minted at Constantinople as the mint mark says, but circulated only near Cherson, in the north Black Sea Crimean region.
    Not great condition


    BALBINUS - VICTORY

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    Balbinus, AD 238
    AR Denarius, 20mm, 3.7g, 12h; Rome, AD 238.
    Obv.: IMP C D CAEL BALBINVS AVG; Laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: VICTORIA AVGG; Victory standing front with wreath and palm.
    Reference: RIC 8
    Ex: @John Anthony
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    AELIA FLACILLA - VICTORY

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    Aelia Flaccilla
    A.D. 373- 388
    21mm 5.7gm
    AEL FLAC-CILLA AVG; draped, with elaborate head-dress, necklace and mantle.
    SALVS REI-PVBLICAE; Victory seated right, inscribing Christogram on shield set on a column, in right field T.
    In ex. ANTΓ
    RIC IX Antioch 61
    Wife of Theodosius I and mother of Arcadius and Honorius
    Ex: @Victor_Clark
     
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  11. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Geta Victory Denarius.jpg
    Geta
    Postumus Victory.jpg
    Postumus
    Alexandria Valerian RY=4.jpg
    Valerian
     
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  12. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    my favorite victory:
    Cato Victory Utica.jpg
     
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  13. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That is a great looking Victory.
    Who is it from?
     
  14. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Cato "The Younger"
    Roman Republican, M. Porcius Cato, denarius, 47-46 BC, Utica, North Africa
    Obv: Female bust draped right, M. CATO. PRO. PR. before
    Rev: Victory seated right, holding patera, VICTRIX, in exergue
    Ref: Crawford : 462/1c (no ROMA on Obverse)

    His idea of "victory" over Caesar was a bit stoic. Plutarch gives a full story - I'll leave out the end, other than this: when offered intervention by a relative of Julius Caesar to broker a peace...

    Cato would not suffer him to do this. "For if," said he, "I were willing to be saved by grace of Caesar, I ought to go to him in person and see him alone; but I am unwilling to be under obligations to the tyrant for his illegal acts. And he acts illegally in saving, as if their master, those over whom he has no right at all to be the lord....""
    -Plutarch Lives, Life of Cato the Younger, 66.1


    His coins are easily confused with those of his namesake (of uncertain relation), the M Porcius Cato of this coin.
    Cato the Elder.jpg
    Roman Republican, M. Cato, AR denarius, 89 BC,
    Obv: Diademed and draped female bust r., behind, ROMA and below neck truncation, M CATO
    Rev: Victory seated right, holding patera in right hand and palm branch in left; below seat, ST and in exergue, VICTRIX
    Ref: Crawford 343/1c (ST below seat)

    Edit: for the identity of this M Cato, Crawford refers to Wiseman & Rowland:

    "M. Cato, father of Uticensis (Cato the Younger), was dead by 91, when his son was in the care of Livius Drusus (Plutarch, Cato Min. 1,1); another man
    of the same name, descended from the Censor's first marriage, was an
    ex-praetor who died in Transalpine Gaul at about the same time (Gellius
    xiii, 20, 12); after the deaths of these two men, with no other M. Cato
    alive except Drusus' infant ward, it was unnecessary for the moneyer to
    add his affiliation. He could have been a son of the ex-praetor or perhaps
    a (younger) son of C. Cato M.f.M.n., cos. 114"
    - Crawford, M., & WISEMAN, T. (1964). The Coinage of the Age of Sulla. The Numismatic Chronicle and Journal of the Royal Numismatic Society, 4, 141-158.
    and
    This note on amphorae stamped "M. Porcius": Rowland, R. (1969). M. Porcius the Wine Merchant. Historia: Zeitschrift Für Alte Geschichte, 18(3), 374-375.
     
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  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Thank you!
    I don't know many of Cato (The Younger)'s coins, but I do remember that he met quite a horrific end:

    Cato did not immediately die of the wound; but struggling, fell off the bed, and throwing down a little mathematical table that stood by, made such a noise that the servants, hearing it, cried out. And immediately his son and all his friends came into the chamber, where, seeing him lie weltering in his own blood, great part of his bowels out of his body, but himself still alive and able to look at them, they all stood in horror. The physician went to him, and would have put in his bowels, which were not pierced, and sewed up the wound; but Cato, recovering himself, and understanding the intention, thrust away the physician, plucked out his own bowels, and tearing open the wound, immediately expired.
    From his wiki page
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Domitian?
    rb1570bb1997.jpg

    Philip I VICTORIA CARPICA
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    Decius
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    Valerian I
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    Postumus
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  17. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

  18. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    The Gallo-Roman emperor Laelianus:

    LaelianusVICTORIAAVG8502.jpg

    Laelianus. Antoninianus. 22-20 mm. 4.39 grams.
    IMP C LAELIANVS PF AVG
    RIC 9. Sear III 11111.
     
  19. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is an updated list of the Romans cited so far, in order of first appearance.

    * Coins of starred people show either
    1) a small Victory on a globe being presented to someone
    or
    2) a Roman provincial coin.
    A full imperial Victory type would be welcome. (I am not claiming there always is one.)

    Victorinus, Valerian, Gallienus, Claudius II, Tacitus, Valentinian I, Trajan, Septimius Severus, Caracalla, Pescennius Niger, Julia Domna, Augustus, Diocletian, Eugenius, Basiliscus, Aquilia Severa* (provincial coin), Trebonianus Gallus, Nero, Aemilian, Marius, Octavian (Augustus), Titus, CONSTANTINOPOLIS, Valentinian II, Theodosius, Aelia Flaccilla, Eudoxia, Constantine, Aurelian, Galba, Severus Alexander, Quintillus, Maximinus Thrax, Magnentius, Elagabal, Valens, Arcadius, Honorius, Constans, Licinius*, Crispus, Constantius II, Gordian III, Vindex, Tetricus II, Gordian II, Decentius.

    Vitellius, Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius, Commodus, Probus, Lucilla*, Lucius Verus, Carus*, Carinus*, Maximian, Constantius*, Maxentius* (Victory is a tiny statue), Licinius II*, Jovian*, Gratian*, Johannes, Galla Placidia, Leo I, Theodosius II, Verina, Balbinus, Geta, Postumus, Domitian (Fourree), Philip I, Trajan Decius, Vespasian, Laelianus,

    When more are posted, you are welcome to copy this list and add to it and repost the updated version.
     
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  20. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Maxentius with Victory as a type:

    Maxentius1VICTORIAAVGN9775.jpg

    Maxentius, 306-312. 24-22 mm. 5.78 grams.
    VICTORIA AVG N
    RIC Rome 272.
     
  21. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Magnus Maximus

    MMVAGG.jpeg

    AE4. VICTORIA AVGG
    Victory advancing left, holding wreath and palm.
    Type struck 383-388.

    Magnus Maximus
    15-13 mm. 1.19 grams. 6:00.
    Note the termination "GG" with two G's, not three.
    RIC IX Lugdunum 34, R, plate IV.18. mm LVGP or LVGS.


    This reverse issue was struck only for Magnus Maximus and only at Lugdunum.
     
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