National Coin Shortage Update

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by paddyman98, Jul 31, 2021.

  1. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    This is an issue that's been going on recently.
    I read this interesting article this morning.

    Quote - "Is there a national coin shortage?
    First -- as the Federal Reserve wants you to know -- the problem is not a lack of coins. The Fed said it's producing enough of them, minting 14.8 billion pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters, 50-cent pieces and dollar coins in 2020, a 24% increase from the 11.9 billion coins produced in 2019.

    Instead, the Fed says, the problem is that due to the pandemic the coins are collecting dust in homes and businesses when they should be continually circulating through the economy." closed quote

    Quote - "How can we get more coins circulating?
    The Federal Reserve is concerned enough about the coin supply problem that it's convened a U.S. Coin Task Force to look for ways to get coins moving.

    To start, the task force encourages individuals to start spending their coins, pay with exact change, deposit spare coins at a financial institution and redeem coins at a coin kiosk or recycler." Closed quote

    You can read the full story here -

    https://www.cnet.com/personal-finan...the-scoop-on-your-quarters-dimes-and-nickels/
     
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  3. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    During the pandemic, I've used very, very little cash. Before the pandemic, I also used very little cash.

    The difference?

    Pre-pandemic I pretty much only used cash when I stopped to fill the tank and bought drinks at the C-store. These purchases generated about 70c in change from $2. The change sits in my glass block bank until it overflows and I roll it to take it to the bank.

    My single common purchase since March 2020 is a refill of my Iced Tea at Fuzzy's Taco Shop when I pick up takeout. This costs $1 and generates zero change. (The $100 I withdrew from the bank the 1st week in March 2020 lasted almost the whole pandemic).

    The glass block is just as full today as it was in March 2020.

    So, exercising my rights to jump to conclusions, generalize from a single event, and assume the customs of my small village are universally the customs of the universe, I call BS.
     
  4. love old coins

    love old coins Well-Known Member

    You know, I paid with exact change the last time they spouted that garbage and I'm not doing it again. IMO, they're full of toot...besides, they don't see it from a coin collector's point of view - LOL!:dead:
     
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  5. Wizank

    Wizank Well-Known Member

    I wish I could find some of those "hoards" of coins!
     
  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I know I've got a pile of change that I can spend (no, not hundreds of dollars worth, but even $25 worth per person can make a difference, when you consider the number of citizens who throw it in jars).

    I will make an effort to put mine back out there.
     
  7. Jim-P

    Jim-P Well-Known Member

    Certainly there are people that prefer to just spend notes because its easier than counting out coins. And I suspect fewer people are rolling up their coins to cash in at the bank. That's kid stuff. Other than my local walmart not being able to keep their self-serve checkouts stocked with coins and only allowing card transactions at the self-serve (whereas Target and the supermarkets can handle it), I have not experienced anything that I could attribute to a coin shortage.
     
  8. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    It sounds like the term "coin shortage" is very misleading and should get called something more like "lack of coin circulation." Lack of circulating coins would look a lot like a coin shortage on the surface, so perhaps the misunderstanding is understandable. I have to admit before and after Covid I also used pretty much no cash. I still have the $100 in $20 bills sitting in my wallet from months ago and I haven't spent a coin in circulation literally in years. Many things have contributed to this: the easy use of plastic just about everywhere, including vending machines, more online purchasing (which doesn't use cash at all) and my bank completely removing their coin changers and taking a more resistant attitude towards cash in general. To all of that add an inability to go out into the world very much for over a year and you have a situation inimical to the circulation of physical money.
     
  9. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    Want to get more coins circulating? Stop using debit and credit cards. It's that simple.
     
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  10. Keith Twitchell

    Keith Twitchell Active Member

    I use cash far less than I did pre-pandemic. So I have gotten out of the habit of stuffing any coins on my dresser into my pockets when I go out, which I used to do routinely. Pre-pandemic, this meant that I always had coins in my pocket; that when I used cash, I spent them; and that I rarely had $1 in change on my dresser. Now, on those rare occasions when I do spend cash, I only spend bills, I get change back, and I've been running $3 - $4 in change on my dresser. Once in a while when I know I'm going to spend cash, or leave a cash tip, I try to remember to bring it along, but even then I forget half the time. If a lot of other people are operating the same way, then coins are indeed not circulating at the usual pace. But I will say that I have not had a merchant tell me they don't have change.
     
  11. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    The roots of this clearly go back quite a while.

    Compare the number of times in a day where a nickel or a dime was used say back before World War II. Even during my childhood and early adult years, coins were something you took out of your pocket at night. And loaded into your pocket the next morning.

    Multiple uses between trips to the bank.

    Today it's one and done. Change goes into a jar and then rolled for the bank or Coinstar.

    Population is larger too.
     
  12. Bill H.

    Bill H. Active Member

    The explanation given sounds reasonable. I'm not sure what you mean by "a collectors point of view"?
     
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  13. Bill H.

    Bill H. Active Member

    I get it that not as many people are dumping large amounts of coins at banks anymore but what I don't understand is what the pandemic has to do with people SPENDING coins. They didn't do that before the "VID" and still don't. The way I see it is the sole reason for the circulation problem is people not dumping into coinstar/banks as much.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can’t relate to the term “coin shortage”. In my area there isn’t one. No signs in businesses. No begging for coins, no rounding up to the nearest dollar, no nothing. Banks are not having a problem and they are not limiting buying rolls.

    It sounds like hype to me to scare people into doing what the government wants.
     
  15. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    That's the injection problem, the coins aren't being circulated back to the back to the bank or through tbe Coinstar and thus are not coming back out of the bank and from the contracted coin terminals.
     
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  16. love old coins

    love old coins Well-Known Member

    Meaning collectors of circulated coins don't want to part with their change until they've had a chance to go through it. I only go through the change in my wallet about every two weeks.
     
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  17. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Don't listen to paddyman, he is the reason we have a shortage, he just wont admit it.
     
  18. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Almost every store that I go to and pay cash, ask me if I want to "round Up", "Round up" for what or who. Who gets the amount that was "rounded up?" If everybody that pays cash "rounds up", how much is it and who gets it? I'm not trying to brag, but I pay my tithing each month to my church and I let my church evaluate the needs of the members and if someone is short of funds, they use the tithes to help them.
    When I go into a store, many of the cashiers are young kids (under 20). If the employee gets $10 from "round up", who does the employee give the overage to...the company? Nahhh! It's easier to put it in their pocket.
    Now, don't misunderstand me. There are a great many employees that are honest and I applaud their integrity, but don't ask me to "round up."
     
  19. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No comment :muted:

    (I'm actually going to dump thousands of metal detected coins into a Coinstar very soon!)
     
  20. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Part of the problem is, of course, the conflicting policies of our government during the last 16 months of the pandemic. The general guidance was to avoid the use of cash in any form so as to avoid the issue of contact spreading. The second problem was that as businesses started to reopen and could not hire sufficient labor, the businesses started to automate and of course, to do that, they had to install non-cash electronic kiosks for ordering and paying.

    An example of the latter was my regular visit to Taco Bell on my way to my local coin club meeting. They have an ordering/paying kiosk but I bypass that and stand at the counter to order in person and pay in cash. The staff tries to not serve me but I won't have it so they sigh, roll their eyes at the ancien regime, and put up with me. Ditto for sit down restaurants with the device on the table.

    These aren't the only reasons for the cash circulation deficit but they are a part of it.
     
  21. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    as I mentioned a few weeks ago I had a few Walmart popcorn tins from Christmas's past filled to capacity with cents and a huge bag of nickels that I was saving for the grand kids as a gift. yanno here kids a "gift". They didn't want them so I took them put them in a bank coin star. (free if you deposit it) over $420.00 worth. I did MY part. lol
     
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