How to search for images of monuments in ancient coins

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  1. Antoni Garcia

    Antoni Garcia New Member

    "thief seated facing in prison"

    Mr. Rober Pearse:

    You could see monumental coins on this link:

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4

    Forum Ancient Coins has this section with campgates and other architecture.

    I have choose one coin on the main page, a Maxentius Follis, for share their transliterated text:

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    Forum Ancient Coins doesn´t recognize the hebrew script, only has the transcription of symbols, with some mistake and description, mistaken too.

    They categorize as "Roma seated facing in hexastyle temple".

    [sod gannab raga gerusah niyapa]

    Subject in this case is [gannab], the thief, and [sod], violent, ist a legal qualification.

    Exergue [basar], translates man on disseny, or people. That it´s one advice, for everybody, [bésorah], good advice.

    [águddah yesuqah nagaya tapasak adam aqumi] First letter, is alef, "C" instead "G" misread on F. Ancient coins.

    [águddah], bow or tiara. Delinquents usually appear with this object on their head.
    [yesuqa], foundry, or casting (iron?).
    [nagah], to ligth.
    [tapas], to arrest, seems to be the sentence, and this symbol alone, jyta, "j" x "jy" [jai] could be the time in prison, while he was alive, life imprisomment.
    [adam] man, or [dam], responsible?.
    [qumi] to comply with.

    Disseny of this prison could been confused as a court, but man on this place ist chained with shackles, as a violent thief.

    "thief seated facing in prison".

    Regards.
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Antoni ,my appologies, but again people dont need to know latin to know you a mistaken.


    this is what the coins is


    Maxentius follis

    Attribution: RIC VI 258
    Date: AD 310-311
    Obverse: IMP C MAXENTIVS
    PF AVG, laureate bust r.
    Reverse: CONSERV VRB SVAE,
    Roma seated facing in hexastyle
    temple, "H" in l. field, REQ in
    exergue

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    Antoni what would you classify this this coin as?
     

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  4. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    I won't answer the question meant for Antoni, other than to say that this coin is clearly a gold aureus of Constantantine I. You can see where it says "FEL: TEMP" on the reverse.
     
  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  6. Antoni Garcia

    Antoni Garcia New Member

    [áwwatah dardeqah sárah laqemméset lasési]

    Mr. The Big H

    "I won't answer the question meant for Antoni, other than to say that this coin is clearly a gold aureus of Constantantine I. You can see where it says "FEL: TEMP" on the reverse"

    I don´t understand your question, but I give you my hebrew transliteration of this coin, photograph on Beast Coins.

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    Transcription has been manipulated, on obverse there is N instead H, on DNCONSTAH-TINVSAVG. The reverse transcription is OK.

    My proposal for vocalize them [áwwatah dardeqah sárah laqemméset lasési]

    [áwwatah], means murder, and [dardeqah] a boy, child, [sárah], to fight. Word [qimmós] translate bramble patch, but here is a verb, to fill of brambles. I read [sesi], to finish, to end.

    [za aguddah yesuqah nagayt jadat napa put], this melted bow light; everyone share their branch.

    Ancient people used to forbiden murder of young people on their wars. Between soldiers, killers of boys where condemned or convict, find guilty.

    At present, this question has changed a few, we can ignore or falsify the ancient´s law and pretend not to know the age of victimes on our wars.

    Best regards.
     
  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    [​IMG]


    I'll see if I can make it bigger for you.
     
  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    if anyone is curious about fel temp coins

    edit: link deleted

    np
     
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This is one time I'd rather you didn't check out my site. :computer:

    Anyone know a venue where you can discuss World coins? Obviously someone here wants to make CT a US only forum by destroying the Ancient/World section with jokes.:vanish:
     
  10. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    yeah, dougs site is very helpful to be honest...I refer to it here and there. I wonder how Joe at FAC or Beast would feel about this guy using their coins to disseminate such useless misinformation about ancient coins. I guess he isnt doing it at Forum as, over there, I dont think they would allow this to happen...Funny how he ignores the only hebrew coin posted in the thread. :/
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The Internet's greatest strength is also its greatest weakness. When I started my ste, there was not a lot online about ancient coins so my amateur efforts were better than nothing. Anyone, even me, could post information. Back then, the other option was books and that required convincing some publisher that he might make money printing your book. Now anyone, sane or not, can publish online.

    Similarly, there was a time that you had to be a little serious to be a coin dealer. You had to buy tables at shows, have a store front or publish printed price lists and mail them out. The costs involved helped keep down the number of less than serious participants. Now anyone with a coin to sell can declare himself a professional dealer and put up a virtual storefront trying to convince those who know less than he does that he is a real dealer. When I started using eBay to buy coins, most of the offerings were real and offered by people who loved coins. Later the other crowd mixed in so the skill now is telling the baby from the bathwater.

    This forum and others like it are great because you can 'talk' to others of similar interest but it is hard to tell much about them until they show their hand. You can talk coins with 'Pat' and not know if it is Patrick or Patricia; if they live nextdoor or halfway around the world; whether they are a PhD in Classics or an 8th grade Latin student. Usually you benefit from the experience but you get the ocassional crazy. I received a couple pieces of hate mail over postings suggesting that Alexander the Great was either Greek or Macedonian (I can't remember which way tht guy looked at it but I set him off by suggesting the opposite).

    Language is a real problem. Half of the core posters on some ancient coin forums are English as a second language. Some of them write better than I do (born US) while some have trouble with making themselves understood. It works out when both sides want to make it work; it fails when both sides are always right and believe the other side is crazy/stupid.

    This thread needs to die. There is nothing to be gained and a real possibility of driving away new collectors apt to be confused by the running joke or offended by the nasty tone.

    Pax vobiscum. שָׁלוֹם
     
  12. Doug, I hope you are not leaving the forum over this.

    I'm pretty sure you can block other members from your user Control Panel.

    If enough people don't respond to stuff like this, the person will either go away, or get so belligerant the moderators take action. Either way, problem solved.
     
  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    doug, I hope you do not leave as well, and appreciate your site, and comments here.
     
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