Green spots on one cent piece

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by koen, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I would like to know that also, what amount of contact with other coins will lead to the other coins developing that same problem. And how long it can take for those coins to show the problems. I ask this because I roll search some, and obviously there are yucky coins in contact with others that are nice.
     
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  3. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Hey, just put it on your "want" list. I'm sure you'll get a long enough one so that you can arrange for someone to find and send you those if you need them in your collection.:smile
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, verdigris is contagious - to other coins.
     
  5. koen

    koen New Member

    anyway to make sure that the other coins it came in contact with wont get it?
    (dip in acetone or something like that? )
     
  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Dipping in acetone and keeping it dry should do it. Even if you stop the reaction with a soak in acetone and a trip in the oven, this coin should never be stored next to other copper coins due to the possibility of possibly infecting others. The only proven way to keep it from being contagious is to physically remove the verdigris.
     
  7. koen

    koen New Member

    all my coins are in 2by2's so now they dont touch eachother.
    But i think i am going to remove this one from the collection, just in case...
    Not going to trow it away, but i wil keep it away from the rest now :p
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    It's just plain, old verdigris. I know you're not in the USA, but this is a VERY common coin and not worth the effort of conservation.
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    LOL! I'm still working on it. The only reason I made serious progress in 2009 is that I was laid off a lot of the year. I'm still tweeking and adding to the book. I have another forum member (Chemnistry PhD) doing a review for me and he should have it back to me soon. :)
     
  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Jeff - You, my friend, are a SMART guy. Your chemistry is just fine and your answers are quite good. :)
     
  11. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Verdigris is absolutely "contagious". The components can and will provide feed materials for the verdigris forming process. Coins with verdigris should be kept in sealed holders away from other coins. Here is an excellent example of what I call "contact verdigris". While I was roll searching I came across this pair. The one coin is very corroded and it was incontact with a red, brown coin for an unknown amount of time in the roll. I had to pry these apart, they were strongly stuck together!
     

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  12. koen

    koen New Member

    thank you all for the info.
    I removed the infected coin from the album where it was in and took a closer look at the rest.
    There was one more coin that looks like it has the verdigris to, so i alwo removed that one from the folder.
    Now i store them in a seperate folder, not trowing them away, but to learn something more about the verdigris problem.
    I woonder how they will look in lets say 5 or 10 years...
     
  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    IMPORTANT NOTE - Only do this to your coin if it's basically pocket change. It will CLEAN your coin.

    I'd take the coin you posted over to the sink and use hot water on it. Rub it with your fingers while rinsing with super hot water. That will probably remove a good bit of the verdigris. Pat it dry, then follow medoraman's advice and use acetone on them. It will dehydrate the remaining verdigris and "slow it down".

    Keep that coin folder in a tightly sealed ziplock bag and maybe even toss in a desiccent pack. It should be OK until you get a replacement.
     
  14. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    If someone wanted to practice conserving coins, at least this would be a throwaway. Since its bronze, I would use a sharpened piece of brass and a microscope. After following Thad's great advice, physically remove the remaining verdigris with the brass pick. Only way to TRULY stop it. If someone was really good, you could try steel but have a much higher chance of damaging the surface with an errant cut. Ancient collectors get used to having to do this on certain coins. Short of that, Thad gave you great advice on how to deal with it.

    Chris

    Btw this is another method, and you can save the toning. Physically removing the verdigris is always an option, though either way your coin will always be damaged.
     
  16. koen

    koen New Member

    now that is a nice object :D
    going to try to find out howmuch shipping to Belgium is.
    When i know that, i think i know of someone who wants to ship them (my ebay buddy Taco)

    But first i realy need to know about shiping costs. because i think the weight of 123 coins will be heavy to ship
     
  17. TheNail1227

    TheNail1227 New Member

    I was just reading "Green Spots on one cent piece" and it confirmed my fears for some of my wheaties. My question is: Have these coins pretty much lost their numismatic value now that the green blob has infected them?
     
  18. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    It’s what’s called a cull. Yes their mkt value in the tank.
     
  19. TheNail1227

    TheNail1227 New Member

    At least the price of copper has the melt price up to almost three cents. Gotta find a bright side.
     
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