What’s wrong with this Agrippina sestertius?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by GregH, Jul 22, 2021.

  1. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

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    I’m interested in your thoughts on this one. Letters tooled? Smoothing? What do you think?
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Weakly struck.
     
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  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It doesn't look tooled or smoothed to me. Then again, I'm not anywhere near an expert.
     
  6. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Looks like a little smoothing was done, which is not terribly unusual with these large bronzes.

    I like the portrait!
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Some smoothing but otherwise looks like a decent coin.
     
  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Where is the smoothing done? Just for my own knowledge.
     
  9. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Thanks team! This is an example of a coin i would have bid on... but it's Lanz's eBay inventory, so i was suspicious. It hammered for EU456 on eBay.
     
  10. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I think it was primarily done around the portrait. If you look at the deposits, you can see a certain flattening in the field around Agrippina. On the reverse, around the SC and an area to the upper right which was likely rough and quite thick.

    As these things go I don't find the smoothing terribly intrusive. Countless ancient coins have been "improved" one way or another; that's just the nature of these things.
     
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  11. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Ok I think I see what you mean on the fields. Less of the little bumpy deposits.
    Yeah, in this case, I think the coin looks pretty nice. The ones I really hate are the obviously tooled ones. Those can be spotted a mile away.
     
  12. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

    Here is an example that sold @Naumann a few years back:
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    The obverse appears to be a die match with the OP's.
     
  13. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    From 12:30 to 2:00 on the reverse and partway inward it may have been "filled" with something like shoe polish (gunk) to fill in corrosion holes. I see gunk elsewhere too.
     
  14. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    I agree with @Valentinian but I think it has been filled in with Bondo or epoxy, and it was poorly done and obvious as well.
     
  15. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I think you're right. That flat area's shade doesn't match the rest of the reverse. A pity - that area should have been left as is. I wonder how bad the corrosion is underneath.

    It also looks as if some kind of material might have been applied at the foot of the portrait on the obverse.
     
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  16. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Hmmm. I wondered whether that black gunk was recently applied or not... knowing Lanz, it was likely applied to mask the coin's shortcomings like pitting etc.

    It seemed to have worked, as it fetched a pretty decent price...
     
  17. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Yep, i wouldn't have paid that much for it. It's an entry level piece and I don't trust Lanz due to his reputation of enhancing coins and numerous bad experiences I've read about. It highlights that reputation is everything.
     
  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    I agree with @Valentinian.

    Don't buy from à dealer known for faking almost everything they put their hands on, it would encourage them

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