1947 nickle with cud and?

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  1. Wadesterling101

    Wadesterling101 New Member

    Hi, I was digging through pop machine change and found this nickle with a cud under cents, it looks like a ufo, lol! I also found a 2020 quarter with a W mint mark.
     

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  3. Wadesterling101

    Wadesterling101 New Member

    Sorry, I forgot to add that both sides are distorted, kinda puffy looking, camera is having a hard time showing what I mean. Maybe grease in die or something. I'll try with a different camera later to see if I can get better image so you will know what I'm seeing.

    Thanks
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Could be an IDB - Interior Die Break


    Not a Cud.. A Cud involes the Rim and flows into the field.
    These are Cuds -
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    And the other issue I'm thinking it might be is a strange Lamination. If you look to the left under the letter E you can see an anomaly on the Nickel surface.
     
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  5. Wadesterling101

    Wadesterling101 New Member

    Oh, ok, idk then, it is a lump of metal under the word cent. Could it have been like a hole in the die or something? Thanks for the reply though! I'll see if I can get better pics.
     
  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    @Wadesterling101 Definition: When a thick flake spalls off the interior of the die face it leaves a void we call an interior die break. It appears on the coin as a featureless lump. Unlike a cud, an interior die break has no direct connection to the design rim.
     
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  7. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    @Wadesterling101 A cud on a coin is a damaged area resembling a blob on the surface of a coin. The cud is raised above the field, and it obliterates the device or inscription where it appears. Cuds are the result of die cracks or die breaks which have become severe. They can also form from die chips where part of the die surface has become damaged and broken away.
     
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  8. RogerC

    RogerC Well-Known Member

    Just a guess, if it were my coin, I would think that the puffyness on the reverse looks to mirror the shape of Jefferson's head, upside down, resulting from a die clash, and possibly causing a chipped die at the C. Also, could the mark above the T in States have been made by a piece of the chip?
     
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    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Possibly displaced metal that got smooshed from the damage above "States".
     
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  11. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Seems to match the nearby hole
     
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  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I agree with paddyman's assessment. Nice coin, it's a keeper.
     
  13. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Appears to me to be a blob of something on the coin, not a die chip. I would try to soak it in acetone over night and then use a tooth pick to try and remove the object. Whatever it is, it is on top of the devices, not under any of them. The "puffiness" might be from having been subjected to high heat. Just a guess. No matter what, NAV in my opinion.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a cud but a definite keeper.
     
  15. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    Good find but calling it a CUD isn't correct.
     
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Wish you would of shown the one I gave you. Lol. Kinda proud of it. Lol. Still think your the best
     
  17. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Can't say for sure but it looks like you also have a lamination issue. It appears that some of the metal folded over. The outline seems to match. Maybe prior to being struck.
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  18. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    I'd have to agree with you
     
  19. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I don't think so or the C would be on top of it, but I see your point on being a possible lam issue.
     
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  20. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    Agreed Mountain Man :)
     
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