1795 Silver Dollar

Is this coin authentic?

 

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I say fake from about 6' away. The bust and eagle look like caricatures.

Steve

 

Agreeded, fake

 

So, what did you pay for it and where did you get it?

 

I bought it about five years ago on eBay from seller centsles

 

What Type of features on the coin show you that this is a fake?
How do you tell the fake from the real?

 

Appears to be a cast copy of a real specimen. Note the multiple depressions throughout.

 

I find it helps to compare to "known good" examples. Some diagnostics may change from one die marriage to another, but it's a guide to obvous errors.






My initial opinion is "cast fake" due to the color and pitting. STAT[ES] looks suspect (the upper serif of the final "S" is missing) and the eye looks fishy, but most everything else seems to line up fairly well. I "want" it to be a fake because I think it is, but I would like to see more diagnostic evidence.

 

I made a purchase on eBay and the seller included a fake 1795, exactly like yours, as a free added bonus coin. I figured it was his way of passing it on, I ended it's life by destroying the coin.

 

The pitting makes it stand out, then the weak O in OF on the reverse. The wreath around the eagle isn’t right. Overall a cast copy.

 

"Is this coin authentic ?" Even if it tested & measured 100% verified authentic (according to it's weight & size, Silver content, all th other ingenious scientific methods I've seen illustrated in counterfeiting videos & printed articles)- U.S.coin
age lettering & numbering & surfaces are consistently precise.-Sloppy appearance
in lettering & numbering/surface irregularities are evidence of fakes, (like that area
between Liberty's forehead & bust perhaps ?) Compare photos of a Certified genuine 1795 to this. I bought an American made microscope, years ago to examine whether a Silver dollar was a "slider" o genuine Mint State.It doubles as a way to determine
if it's a fake. I have a Morgan dollar my aunt sent me from a San Bernardino bank
in 1960. It's a counterfeit. The Chinese only had 11 yrs until 1960 to infiltrate fakes
They've been getting better & better at flooding the USA w/fakes from 1960-2021.
That phrase "All's fair in Love and War is their mantra apparently.

 

There appears on my screen to be raised metal blobs
Between of and America. I am far from an expert but believe that is a characteristic of a cast coin.
I will have to edit this since it appears the same on the photo of the coin added for comparison.

 

Raised blobs could be evidence of die breaks or cuds, depending on where they are located. But in the case of this "coin" it is likely further evidence of a fake.

Steve

 

Also what's up with the rim around 9 o'clock on the reverse?
Also the reverse rim from 3 to 6 looks odd.

 

As others have said, indicative of a cast counterfeit.

 

1795 dollars are some of the most faked coins on Face Book ads.

 

If it is still in his "self-slab", I wonder if you would get anywhere by contacting him. He is a big seller. And I think the word on the street is that he is knowledgeable, though he definitely grades to his own (loose) standard, or at least he did before ebay clamped down on his slabs.

 

Does that make the real one a cast fake, too?

 

Whether this coin is a fake or not, it at least has the proper obverse and reverse for the BB-52 die marriage. The die crack in Liberty's hair is correct starting with Die State III. On the reverse, the die lumps in the field between the O and A are normal starting with Die State II. Also in the reverse, with a small piece out of the die on the palm branch below upright of F is correct starting with Die State II. So, if it's a counterfeit, at least they copied the correct obverse and reverse die pair.

Now, that said, the coin's lettering appears mushy and poorly formed; the fields and devices are pitted which is not characteristic of an undamaged specimen; the dentils appear poorly formed for a coin at this level of wear and for the BB-52 as a die marriage; the clouds on the reverse appear poorly struck/defined which is not characteristic of the BB-52 at this level of wear.

I would like to see the third side of the coin under significant magnification all the way around, looking at the edge lettering and also evidence of efforts to disguise a casting line.

Also weight and diameter need to be checked.

But with only the evidence presented by the OP's two photographs, I would say the the likelihood of a counterfeit is higher than not.