Is there any chance that this is the real deal? It looks like it is proof-like in the photos, with fabulous detail (barring the obvious damage). It looks like it falls into the category of "too good to be true" so I am wary even though I don't see anything obviously amiss. [edit: I do see the color difference between the photos indicating that at least one of them has been "doctored"] Anyone else see any problems? Obverse: Reverse: Your opinions are appreciated.
if you don't regularly buy holed coins how can you determine that it is "worthless"? It is definately worth less than a non holed example, but there is a market for holed coins, especially ones with XF to MS details, a clean hole, and no other damage besides the hole. Anyway, thanks for your opinion of the coin's authenticity, it is appreciated. Was there something in particular that doesn't look right, or just an overall impression? Thanks!
Even though this holed dollar is worthless, as of right now it is at $81... http://cgi.ebay.com/1846-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-Holed_W0QQitemZ8340829980 How strange that asian chick's post seems to contradict things here...I guess to some $81 is like a nickel...like to Bill Gates I guess
Every collector has their own opinions..let's respect them. As for why I think it looks suspicious, it has an unusual proof like look to it, and the pictures do appear to have been edited but still a very nice example.
I'd watch out. The coin is not a proof. The strike is too weak IMHO to be a proof. Looks like a holed, dipped out coin to my eyes...Mike
The coin looks very prooflike to me. I can't imagine a circulation strike having those mirrors and that sharp detail. Something is probably amiss somewhere though, as PCGS estimates that only 15 proofs were struck....I don't see that the seller offers a return policy, but if you're interested in buying it and he will accept a return if it's not genuine, I'd go for it. If that were a genuine 1846 proof, it would be a VERY 'elite' coin, holed or not. Whatever it is, it looks nice to me.
Circulation strikes can be Proof Like in appearance - CLICK HERE But I would certainly have my suspicions about the one in the auction. For one thing the hole looks new. For another, if someone holed the coin to wear it as jewelry - why doesn't it show any wear typical of coins worn as jewelry pieces ?
The seller said that the coin is being represented as genuine as far as he knows and will accept a return if it's not. Bidding is up to $120+. Maybe it's a prooflike business strike. Still looks pretty to me.
I certainly hope the hole is some what contemporary. Anyone who drill's a 150 year old coin in such nice condition belongs in prison.
That's my concern exactly. I'm thinking that someone drilled a hole in a fake coin hoping that potential buyers would assume it was genuine and not already in somebody's collection because of the hole.
I'm no seated half expert, but this coin looks to be a business strike that has been dipped or polished or both. Here are two proof dollars from that date: Heritage Proof #1 Heritage Proof #2 On the reverse, notice the detail through both claws and above the leftmost (Eagle's right) claw. Also look at the tops of the wings. On the obverse, notice the lack of detail of the leftmost (Liberty's right) shoulder where her dress goes over her shoulder. Also look at the position of the date. As a comparison, take a look at the business strike in this year: Heritage Normal #1 Notice the similarity in date -- the right-leaning 6? Notice the lack of details in the same places? It sure looks like a business strike to me. I wish one of the seated bust experts would come along and help you. I don't have a reference guide on this series, and don't pretend to be an expert. Buyer beware. Take care....Mike
