Yeah I already read that thread..thanks though. Bottom line is coins can be "cleaned". Use caution, but it isn't the 'slicing a diamond in the back of a moving pinto' disastrous venture that you often read about. I understand whizzed being an idiotic move, but, dipping, or otherwise carefully cleaning can and is done routinely. Sorry. That issue gets me hopped up.
If you can't tell it's been cleaned...I'd crack it and resubmit it. Worst case is you are out a little money for the attempt. But first, post a picture so we can see it.
The question is whether or not the cleaning in any way damaged the coin. I would seek the opinion of a trusted, professional Numistmatist and go from there. Cracking the coin and selling it raw without mentioning what you know about the coin would be (imo) unethical.
I agree. Even though you might not be able to tell it was cleaned...experts felt it was. Now, if it was reslabed as gradable....then there is no need to mention the previous slabbing.
This is true, but if the coin was slabbed as cleaned and ungradable...the TPGs felt that it was improperly cleaned.
I get the feeling from your post that you feel it would be wrong to sell it without giving the whole past to the buyer. I think thats your personal answer. The one that you can sleep with. Now the whole slab grade thing, its all opinions. If you look at a coin with a loop and still think its not cleaned, then to you it isn't. Nobody trusts a taxi driver better than them self unless they are drunk (not all either ) even as the taxi driver is the professional (he gets paid to do it). The same slab shops label coins "first strike" all the time. If that doesn't expose them what will. Use the Force Luke : )
Thanks for all the replies... I doubt that its been whizzed, and if it was cleaned it was a long time ago.. the coin has developed a natural skin, so to speak... I think I will put it in the trusted hands of Mark Feld at Long Beach. If he thinks the coin should grade I will resubmit. If he thinks its been cleaned and wont grade then onto Ebay it goes....
I agree with CamaroDMD...that if the coin is reslabbed by a "reputable" TPG (a trusted authority that has no vested interest in the resale of the coin), then there's no need to to mention the previous grade. You're right...adherance to ethical standards is a personal, individual choice. The coin community is a group of very nice, ethical people surrounded by those lured to coins in the hopes of making a quick buck.