CCG (the company that includes NGC) acquired by Blackstone Group

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    After the acquisition of Collectors Universe (PCGS), more changes are coming to the grading world with Blackstone Group acquired a majority stake in the Certified Collectibles Group (which includes NGC).

    "The investment firm said the transaction values the company at more than $500 million. Blackstone said CCG's founder Mark Salzberg and its CEO Steven Eichenbaum will retain a significant minority stake."

    "Blackstone said it plans to accelerate CCG's growth, enabling the company to invest significantly in its current and planned services, adding and training new employees, expanding its geographic and product reach, acquiring new technologies and developing its digital presence."

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/blackstone-to-acquire-certified-collectibles-group-271625149366
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Best Answer
    Like all acquisitions of great service companies, this will not end as well as it started.
     
  4. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    I guess grading prices will be rising?
     
  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    They rise as-is, so an even larger increase would not be surprising.
     
  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Both PCGS and NGC are becoming more corporate. The acquisition of PCGS will eventually end PCGS’ association with CLCT, as there is more money to be made in the trading card market. NGC has always been a solid organization, but has had major problems meeting reasonable submission return timetables. The infusion of corporate cash will obviously help NGC. I have always liked NGC, myself. It is a well run company. In many ways they are superior to PCGS.
     
  7. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Indeed...or at least they were. Who knows what these changes will bring...? Am hearing that computer-aided grading is in the works for at least one of them...with the other to follow if they/others want to remain solvent/viable in keeping up with the times, et al. A good thing.
     
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  8. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    NGC's parent company had also recently dove into trading cards. Part of me wonders if that side of the company is the new owners main target.
     
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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I believe that CCG has been involved in the trading card business for 15+ years.
     
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  10. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Price may go up but what direction will quality and service go?
     
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  11. OldSilverDollar

    OldSilverDollar Unknown Member

    NGC Economy Class will be $45 each by the end of 2022 I predict. the justification of new security features and enhanced services for members = more money for the new owners, more special treatment for the whales.
     
  12. Tracy62

    Tracy62 Well-Known Member

    I really like NGC's website. As a fairly new collector, I find it very useful when buying graded coins online since each coin has a unique identifier. I hope that doesn't change.
     
  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    They started doing trading cards in 2020. They had been doing comic books and other collectibles for about 20 years.
     
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  14. OldSilverDollar

    OldSilverDollar Unknown Member

    Baseball cards and sports cards already had some long established grading companies with very loyal followings, wonder what could they offer thats not already been done? I used to collect back in the 1990's/Early 2000's. when baseball made Topps a monoply again i got out as I was a big Donruss Fan.

    Atleast with coins in a SHTF situation you can buy or trade with a silver dollar.
     
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  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    My mistake! That's what I was thinking.
     
  16. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    Honestly, when I saw them enter the industry my first thought was they wanted to "get in on the action" as PSA (CU) and Beckett, who are the primary companies, are booming. I don't think it's about bringing in anything new.
     
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  17. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Best Answer
    Like all acquisitions of great service companies, this will not end as well as it started.
     
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It makes me wonder, will both PCGS and NGC decline enough to make it worthwhile for someone new to enter (or to bring up ICG and Anacs)? Or will people remain loyal to the top two even if customer service keeps declining and prices keep going up?
     
  19. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    This may be dwarfed by the Cohen deal today. CCG does not think things out. This is gonna hurt.

    McKinsey won't come out looking like brainiacs on this one. They should have seen Cohen coming and retreated very fast...Custer missed the know your enemy signs also, and we know what happened there.

    edit: changed CGC to CCG
     
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  20. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    If I purchase a coin already slabbed great, but I do not send any of my inventory to TPG's. My guess is as good as any ones, in my opinion, end of story.
     
  21. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    The same logic youre using applies to NGC as well.

    I really don't understand why so many people are acting like PCGS is just going to get dumped like you can't have PSA and PCGS under the same umbrella. All the divisions are profitable and self running, you don't just dump those especially not when they add to the prestige. The only way PCGS is getting sold is if someone decides to offers several hundred million for it

    If I remember correctly they launched it around the time PSA was getting absolutely killed with submissions and had to stop accepting anything but walkthrough in order to catch up. I'd want a piece of that pie too if I was them
     
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  22. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I'll begin to worry when Amazon buys one of them; with a Prime membership you get free shipping.
     
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