Caligula's wife? I think not!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by JayAg47, Jun 30, 2021.

  1. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    So I came across a post on reddit showing a sapphire ring allegedly worn by Caligula himself that depicts his wife Caesonia! Right away it looked more like Faustina senior to me, wife of Antoninus Pius.
    So I looked further and every articles/posts on this ring says it belongs to the Julio Claudian era. Even the owner of the ring describes it as such.
    I can definitely see Pius ordering artisans to make jewels like these in honour of his wife after her consecration.
    Who knows, the priest of the temple that he built for her might have even worn this ring!!
    While a ring like this would've certainly decorated the fingers of royal family/Patricians, I seriously doubt this would've been personally worn by Caligula, or that it even portrays his wife.
    An article on the ring! https://mymodernmet.com/caligula-sapphire-ring-marlborough-gem/
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    An example of Faustina the Elder denarius from Vcoins.
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    What's your opinion?
     
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  3. Roman Collector

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  4. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Nah, it is not Caligula wife… Seems like a very well done piece for the time.
     
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  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I didn't even know this pervert had a wife.
     
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  7. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    Oh he at least had four!
     
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  8. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I wonder how they think they know it is actually ancient? The style brings up lots of questions (see the comments on historum) as to which century it belongs to. It it extremely unusual. The features might be unusual for an antiquity because it is not really ancient (of course, at the time of or before Marlborough in the 18th century). A forger who knew the Duke liked gems could have made this special object for the Duke. What techniques do we have to date gems?
     
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  9. Exodus_gear

    Exodus_gear Well-Known Member

    Never realized how advanced Roman jewelers were back in the day ;)
     
  10. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    I believe it is truly from the Roman era, we modern people often underestimate the knowledge and the technologies of the ancient world. However why I think it indeed belongs to the Romans because no one (or very few) knew about Roman emperors, much less those empresses around 200-300 years ago, so who would go out of their way to make a top quality ring portraying someone like Faustina, but it totally makes sense if Antoninus Pius or someone close to them ordered this ring to be made.
    Or if we really want to go with scientific route, we can analyse the composition of the gold, and compare it with an aureus from the era of Antoninus Pius!
     
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