Hannibalianus - opinions please

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by GregH, Jun 28, 2021.

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Is this Hannibalianus real?

  1. Yep!

    7 vote(s)
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  2. Nope!

    3 vote(s)
    30.0%
  1. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Hi all

    Can I have your opinions on this Hannibalianus please? Coins of this Roman "King of the Pontic people" are notoriously faked, often very convincingly. Thoughts?

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  3. Ryro

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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    Hanniballianus

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    Hanniballianus Caesar
    Æ Nummus
    337BCE
    SECVRITAS PVBLICA
    Euphrates river goddess seated
    Constantinople mint, CONSS Rex Regum of Pontos
    RIC 147
    COMMENT: He was elevated by Constantine to the rank of Rex Regum of the Pontic people, but soon after killed in the family purge instigated by Constantine's sons. That's why his legend reads HANNIBALLIANO REGI
     
  5. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Nice coins! It's hard to find a decent-priced problem-free Hanny, so i'm happy with mine for now. I'm just very wary of fakes.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I like the skin/patina on that one. Nice one Greg.
     
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    What's with the circles that I circled in red?

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  8. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Hmm.. I'm not sure. Ryro's piece has a plugged hole in that position; mine isn't holed. Are you thinking maybe it's a transfer die fake?
     
  9. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

    Great coin, especially the reverse is fantastic. I was surprised to see that 2 out of 4 people thought the coin is a forgery. The coin is clearly from different dies than the coin with the hole. I cannot see any reasons to doubt the coin, but would be interested to read other opinions.
     
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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I don't know, I just find it weird, your pic is small to see if it's just the patina or something else.
     
  11. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    On your coin the "plugged hole" is just an illusion. The rounded bottom of the "hole" is just one of the leaves of the reed. Also, the two coins are from different dies - the reeds are different.

    The style of your coin looks fine to me (at least not one of the common modern fakes floating around), although I'm always leary of anything that looks "overly aged" since you don't know what's hiding underneath.
     
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  12. medoraman

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    I do not see anything that would lead me to believe its false either. Looks like a nice example of a very scarce coin.
     
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