Need help with a Republican anonymous Æ as (Janus/prow)

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I was the high bidder at this weekend's Savoca blue and this big ol' Republican bronze caught my eye. Now, it's not EF by any means -- and that's perhaps why I'm having trouble attributing it using Sear.

    It's 27.88 g and 31 mm (sestertius-sized for imperial aficionados like me), which is too small for the I above Janus and I above prow but otherwise plain type in Sear, but too heavy to be a post-reform one, which is supposed to be about 20 g or so.

    I see only an I above the Janus and only an I above the prow and no other monograms or control marks, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. They could be worn away (I mean look how barely visible the ROMA is at the bottom).

    Does anybody have a reference for this one? Dating? Any help is appreciated. I'm out of my wheelhouse here.

    Anonymous Janiform RR AE Savoca.jpg
     
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  3. cmezner

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    It is mentioned in Dictionary of Roman Coins, pp. 84 - 88

    https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofroma00stev

    where it says that the mark of this money is the sign I but it is not always found on it.Such pieces mostly exhibit the name ROMA on the reverse and many bear the name of families, but there is no Sears number given.

    And a very heavy one is here
    http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/crawford1.html

    Anonymous. As (post-semilibral) circa 215-212, Æ 100.46 g.
    Laureate head of bearded Janus. Rev. Prow l.; above, mark of value I above.
    Crawford 41/5a. Haeberlin pl. 49, 11. Sydenham Aes Grave 25. Thurlow-Vecchi 70.
     
  4. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    With 28 Gram your As falls in the 160 BC category

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  5. Scipio

    Scipio Well-Known Member

    IMHO your coin is simply a Crawford 56/2 anonymous As
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much!
     
  7. Andrew McCabe

    Andrew McCabe Well-Known Member

    Andrew McCabe, Roman Republican Anonymous Struck Bronzes, a 175 page explanation of all the supposed Cr.56 types, published in Essays Russo, 2013, this is type D which is the anonymous version of Crawford 50 anchor As and dates from 212 to 206 BC, probably struck at a mint South of Rome possibly in Campania. My own example of this variant here PSX_20210628_000023.jpg

    Not a generic Cr.56/2 as indeed not even minted in Rome. Compare for style same type but with anchor mintmark, evidently same style
    PSX_20210628_000328.jpg
     
  8. Scipio

    Scipio Well-Known Member

    Of course I won’t discuss an identification made by @Andrew McCabe.
    Just to learn more, the style (for what can be seen) looks to me simplier than the elaborated 50 series…For instance Janus nose IMO doesn’t have defined nostrils, but a simple triangular shape.
     
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