GTG: 1853-C $5 Gold

I made an offer on this coin and received a counter....NGC graded...SEE additional pics below....

 

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VF25. Not to throw stones but either this has been roughly cleaned or your photographic skills need a tuneup.

 

I would love to have this coin in ANY condition. Is there such a thing as AU50+?

 

My skills are limited to what I have to work with.... I'm waiting on better pics from the seller...

 

Whoops. I thought you were the seller. My mistake. Sorry.

 

No problem.... I'm supposed to receive better pics this afternoon or I'm not interested in the coin even with a 30 day return privilege.

 

Post the new pics when you get them?

 

Details are better than VF25, however I agree the surfaces do not appear to be very original. I think it likely graded XF and as it’s from the Charlotte mint it may even have received a straight grade. XF40/45 maybe?

 

New pics....

 

@charlottedude knows them best

 

A bit better, but still issues with the surface. Can I raise my guess to a VF35?

 

I was hoping for much better pics too...

 

The coin has AU details, but the surfaces look like sandpaper. I'd really have to see this one in person to comment more. Maybe it had some coppery toning and a prior owner didn't like it.

I don't have an 1853-C $5 gold, but I own or have owned an 1852-C and an 1854-C.

This 1852-C is graded PCGS AU-53, CAC.



This 1854-C is graded PCGS AU-50, CAC. I liked this one better, but sold it to another collector as a favor.



This 1842-C is graded AU-58, but it's been dipped.

 

I like the 1852.....I think all will be surprised when they see how NGC graded the coin. This seller has not offered a generous return policy and I'm going to pass.... I didn't agree with the NGC grade and will post it later this evening.

 

Wise choice.

 

The photos aren't too hot and so I can't judge the surfaces well which is key with these branch mints as so many coins have been processed. In terms of details, it's at least EF and maybe AU. MDO made the right decision IMO

 

I was offered 10 day return privileges for a full refund.

Here is the reveal.....

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NGC based that AU-58 grade on the design features and ignored the rub that is all over surfaces in the fields. The coin is over graded, and if it’s priced at the grade assigned, it’s over priced. The real grade is lower in the AU scale or “details” because of cleaning.

 

I'm glad I passed on the "AU-58" 1853 C.

 

I'm glad you passed also... apologies for coming to the party late, but that was an overgraded, over-processed coin (i.e., dipped out in an attempt to make it look "brighter" and garner a higher grade). Unfortunately both PCGS and NGC have "awarded" such actions by assigning branch mint gold unrealistic grades. You really have to shop around and be patient if you want to find a coin that has the eye appeal experienced collectors seek, and be willing to pay for. Here's my 1853-C example -