NEED HELP, 1906-S Filipinas "One Peso"

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by stella, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. stella

    stella The Myth

    Please tell me how to tell a real from a fake... I think i might have a real one, im trying to find my camera now...

    Does anyone know how to tell a fake froma a real one?

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  3. stella

    stella The Myth

    DOES ANYONE HAVE THE DETAILS ON THE ONE PESO???????


    <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">SPECIFICATIONS:
     
  4. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    Where did you get it?

    First thing you should do is weigh it.

    KM#168DenominationPesoCountryPhilippinesGovernmentUnited States AdministrationCoinage TypeDecimal CoinageCompositionSilverFineness0.9Weight26.9568 g 0.78 oz ASWDescription ObverseFemale standing beside hammer and anvilDescription ReverseEagle above stars and striped shield[​IMG]
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    More than likely it is real. The peso you mention which was minted in .900 fineness silver at the San Francisco mint. The pictures of it are at the back of my redbook ( check the index). They are quite common in general grades. IMO.

    Jim
     
  6. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    Hi Jim,
    Have another look? 1906s one peso
     
  7. stella

    stella The Myth

    Ok, i compaired both PCGS coins on PCGSCOINFACTS.com. They are slightly different on how the date looks. There is an XF-45, and an XF-40....

    Mine looks 99% like the XF-40

    I also just weighted it...
    Weight: 26.89
     
  8. stella

    stella The Myth

    You said...

    Weight 26.9568

    my 12$ scales say 26.9...

    what do you think...
     
  9. stella

    stella The Myth

    Its also XF-45 - AU-50, what would the value be on this?
     
  10. chip

    chip Novice collector

    I think that standards allow for a slight variance, which yours is well within the limits, in sorting copper from zincolns they can vary from 3.2-3.1 for the coppers, to 2.5-2.6 for the zincolns, wear can take a little bit off the weight
     
  11. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    If you can I'm sure some of us would like to see photos. This is a much counterfeited coin. Just because the weight is on doesn't mean it's real.
     
  12. stella

    stella The Myth

  13. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

  14. stella

    stella The Myth

    whitch one of those is fake....

    also if he is desribing ways to spot a real one then in the luckiest man alive, if he is desribing fakes in the 23 ways. then im screwed...

    this looks soooo real
     
  15. stella

    stella The Myth

    if those are describing a real one then i have got a genuine 1906-s, EVERY thing is on point exactly
     
  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I stand corrected, as the red book did not mention any minted or extent numbers. I am glad you found the info on the net.

    Jim
     
  17. stella

    stella The Myth

    how much would one be worth in 45-50????
     
  18. stella

    stella The Myth

    1. The first check points for a genuine 1906-S is the straight serif "1" . But beware of a shaven curved serif 1. (Confused on "Straight Sefir?")

    2. The second check points is below the serif of the "1" which had a very small protrution when magnified under 10X loupe. (Apperent On My Coin)

    3. The third check points is the number "9" which the genuine pieces have a larger and rounder knob. (Apperent On My Coin)

    4. The fourth checkpoints is the number "0" which the upper inner loop to the right of the 0 is straight rather than oval. (Looks Correct)

    5. The fifth checkpoints is the number "6" which the knob is slightly in teardrop shape rather than round. (Apperent On My Coin)

    6. The sixth checkpoints is the die crack line below the right side of the eagle's wing just above the three stick of the arrows. (NOT On My Coin)

    7. Check points number 6 is only applicable if the mintmark "S" is lying on the 7th denticles count starting the "1" of 1906. (EXPLAINS, MINE IS 6/7 DENTICLES)

    8. If the "S" mintmark is lying between 6/7 denticles, then die crack line is not found below the eagle's right wing. (Apperent On My Coin)

    9. Meaning there is two types of die variety found in the 1906-S peso.
    10. Be very suspicious if the coin weight is below 26.8 grams. Altered dates usually fall in this category due to heating. (Weight = 26.9)
    11. If the weight is about 26 grams or less, then it is an obvious cast counterfeit. Pitting is visible even to a naked eye.
    12. Check for the edge. If the reeding is too weak or too sharp to be perfect then put your own conclusion.
    13. Also, check for the surface color of the coin. If its unnaturally toned or surface had been altered, be very suspicious. (Looks Genuine 100%)

    Weight: 26.9
     
  19. stella

    stella The Myth

    Anyone gonna be at the fun show in FL?
     
  20. chip

    chip Novice collector


    Maybe some year, We are going to go to Florida once I get the estate settled up, I have to do something to show my wife how much I appreciate her help over the last year, it will be a sort of second honeymoon for us.
     
  21. stella

    stella The Myth

    no for the show on the 7-10th
     
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