2011 ASE 25th Anniversary DDO

Hey inspector43.
That one is an interesting one. Class 6 doubling.

My opinion it's got no bump because people don't know about it like they know about the 08 rev07.
It's the first non-proof silver eagle minted at San Francisco 100k mintage, (they were struck late in the year specifically for this set and not pulled from other inventory which is why it can only be found in the anniversary set)

ANACS will attribute it on the slab I think with a letter from one of the top guys proving it, PCGS and NGC won't but PCGS and NGC also won't attribute on the slab every VAM either. There's a lot they've decided not to do.

I think it's significant, I think it's also mostly unknown to the collecting community BUT it might be a sleeper that turns on 10-20-50 years from now with the reverse change and the series 1 being complete. Possible interest picks up as people complete their sets and decide they want this example also and that pushes up the value some way down the road as people dig in and find out it exists and want one.

As it stands though the interest isn't there. Most folks are gonna call it machine doubling at sight, or worse, say it was stuck more than once as the cause as it was struck at San Francisco and it was in the anniversary set with the proofs and dismiss it. I think this is why mostly that NGC and PCGS won't slab it with the DDO attribute.

That and to get the anniversary set designation from them on every coin it all had to be submitted at once in the mint shipping packaging and they weren't attributing it from the start.

The set is valued. So are the individual coins. Unless it becomes a die variety collectors want and need it may not ever get a DDO bump that pushes it above the non-DDO.

I'd still be happy to have one in my collection and find out how to get it attributed by ANACS because ya never know what direction the future goes.

 

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Thanks @John Burgess That's the information I was looking for. I have 2 of them and may reach out to ANACS like you suggested.

 

The price of these on Ebay, just the burnished one has jumped up considerably since March, considering that I would have said maybe not worth it to send it for grading and attribution, but now that they are selling for $250ish in MS69 and nearing $400 for MS70, here in June for some reason, I think the Anacs submission is the cheapest way to go to get it attributed on the slab. for all I know with the attribution on it, it might sell comparatively to the PCGS or NGC ones without it, I have no way to tell though. when the MS69 were selling for $40-$100 with most falling under $60, I'd have to think twice maybe.

You'd need to call them I think and find out exactly what it takes for them to attribute it on the slab, I know early on it would take a Wexler letter or something like that to give it the written attribution. I don't know if that wears off after a bit of time and they will do it without the letter once it's established. Just saying to do it once and right the first time

 

https://doubleddie.com/402401.html
"The fee for attributions is $5 per coin. Return postage and insurance is extra and must be included with any coins that are sent. The rule of thumb for return postage is that whatever it costs you for postage and insurance to send the coins to me, that’s the amount that should be included for postage and insurance to return the coins to you. "

"If you are seeking to have your die varieties encapsulated (slabbed) with the Wexler Die Variety File numbers, ANACS is currently the most "die variety friendly" of the third party grading services. ANACS will encapsulate die varieties with the Wexler File numbers when they can be verified. When sending die varieties to be encapsulated with the Wexler File numbers it will help to include any documentation to help ANACS verify the listing. This could include reference to one of the many books that I have authored or coauthored, reference to varieties listed on my website, or a copy of any letters that are included when the coins are returned from being attributed. "
http://www.anacs.com/Default.aspx

 

Some of my comments were intended to be rhetorical to get others to think about the issue.

 

Wexler has it listed: https://doubleddie.com/2224958.html
The doubling is difficult to see without some magnification and IMO very minor compared to the famous DDs like the 1955, 1972, 1983 Lincoln Cents and Doubled Dies of other denominations. I've been reading Wexler's articles in Coin World for quite a number of years. In just about every issue there's a few listings of minor doubling, especially the newer, copper plated Zinc Cents. I believe that unless they get heavily promoted, most collectors will never be interested in looking for them because they are so minor. Please don't be offended, but I would never pay a premium for a coin with such minor doubling. If I was selling one, I'd mention the doubled die, and wouldn't expect any premium for it either. But that's just me, others will think differently.

 

Thanks for the feedback. I am not interested in selling them, and, like you, I would not pay a premium for one. My interest here was points of view on why something like this is not interesting to others.

 

I do find them interesting and definitely would keep them if I found them. What I find difficult is figuring out what class of doubling it is. Check this site and see how many classes of doubling are listed: http://www.error-ref.com/?s=doubled+die+classes
A bit complicated for me.

 

Me too!

 

Thanks for that info Thomas. Didn't occur to me that DD's had so many classification's but it makes sense in describing the ultimate root cause. Thanks again, I'll be book marking the site. Happy collecting

 

Coneca also list this ddo, as ddo-001 .

 

If you have a extra one you want to sell, PM me and we can come up with a price we can both live with ...